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I've noticed recently that some manufacturers put their name and copyright logo on the model. Is this common? I was gifted the Sherman Easy Eight and noticed the logo dead center on the turret just front of the commanders hatch In raised letters. It's a Rye Field model. I managed to sand it off it seams like a really bad place to put a logo.
The kit manufacturer's logo has always been on many kits, often times inside the kit or on the bottom of the the hull. I recall some aircraft had some copyright wording on the underside of a wing back in the day.
Now, that raised marking on the top of the turret on the RFM Sherman turret is an accurate representation of the original manufacturer of THE ACTUAL TANK. That is on the real tank, it is not RFM's logo.
You spent your time sanding off the foundry casting markings found on the actual tanks.
For more information on Sherman foundry casting markings, see this link.
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/casting_markings/casting_markings.html
Did it actually say "Rye Field"??? Or was it the casting info like Rob referred to which supposed to be there.
I was the actual company markings from the kit manufacturer with the circle c representation of copyright of the kit if it was a manufacturer of the full sized tank I would have asked the forum about this currosity
John3M I was the actual company markings from the kit manufacturer with the circle c representation of copyright of the kit if it was a manufacturer of the full sized tank I would have asked the forum about this currosity
That's crazy,actually offensive that you actually have to sand off a company logo.
Does look like a foundry casting mark Rob mentioned.
Thanks,
John
it seems that one needs to reference check the manufacturer for quality. I am good with Tamaya and Italeri and Revell but not so much with AMT I'm still learning which to avoid
The old school technique was to shave the casting marks from one kit to add/replace casting marks on armor. Now the good news is that you can buy 3D printed decals to add this detail.
Here is the RFM kit turret. If you sanded off that mark in front of the TC hatch near the spot lamp and sifgt post, that was not a model company logo, but an actual detail... like said a above, those are foundry casting marks
a better view of the kit part here
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John3M it seems that one needs to reference check the manufacturer for quality. I am good with Tamaya and Italeri and Revell but not so much with AMT I'm still learning which to avoid
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Ok thanks won't make that mistake again i'll just put some tools on there or something or shell damage I'll figure it out lesson learned, thanks guys
I'm working on an old F-101B kit that has(had) Monogram marks on the underside of the wing.
The foundry casting mark on the RFM kit is the letter "G" not "C" for the Granite City Works where the actual turret was cast.
Similar markings were even carried over to Abrams tank markings. Originally, there was a four digit number and a letter "D" for Detroit or "L" for Lima, Ohio crudely engraved on the hull and turret. Later the letter "U" was added to denote a tank uparmored with depleted uranium armor mesh.
Once the Detroit Plant was closed and the Abrams was only produced at Lima, OH, the letters D & L were eliminated.
I'm gifting the model and reordering to correct the error I am also concerned about authenticity at first when I saw the indentation of the manufacturers mark as you indicated, I was a little, perturbed, thinking it was another manufacturers mark from the kit, and it ticked me off. in retrospect I could've done more research, but I have yet to find a good photo of the top of the tank turret for this particular model. When I do research on the Internet, I see primarily kits rather than the real image from the war it makes it difficult to do research strictly on the Internet I have several books on tanks, but not specifically the easy eight edition. on the side topic I watched a video yesterday of a man that did research on the origins of the nomenclature "easy eight"4 I found that particularly interesting. There seems to be a lot of diverse opinions on where the easy eight name came from and it's generally not what people think at least according to the research he did, and he did extensive research
The problem will be that this particular model kit was created by copying the markings off of a surviving tank. That specific marking might be unique to that tank and is just representative of the casting markings found on similar tanks.
There are aftermarket casting markings to add to the Sherman tank.
https://www.archertransfers.com/AR88007.html
I've searched the internet and my books for views of the top of the turret and cannot find any. I would like to see images of these markings if you have any
Thanks
John3M I've searched the internet and my books for views of the top of the turret and cannot find any. I would like to see images of these markings if you have any Thanks
Scroll down about halfway; the turret with the "55" on it.
http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/turret_types/76mm_turrets.html
Thanks, great pictures I'm new at finding this much detail. Spent most of my life with my nose to the grindstone. I'm now trying to have some fun doing what I have been wanting to do for a long time. In the future I will be far more cautious with my sanding stick
If you look at photos of turrets and hulls, there are often raised numbers and letters from the casting process. You are right in that they look like manufacturer part numbers or copyright information molded to the surface.
Way back when, kit surfaces were molded smooth. Now, they have texture and include many of these raised foundry casting marks. Back in the day, the original super detailers would carefully shave off the kits' part numbers off of the sprues and replicate random foundry casting marks on the surface of their models.
The numbers weren't accurate, but representative of similar marks.
Keep the kit, finish it, and put some stowage, like a knapsack, a helmet, a bedroll, etc, where the casting mark was.
Yeah, the idea of just putting some storage over the area is a good one but you don't want to block the vision blocks in the commander's cupola. Maybe a map laid over the turret would do the trick though?
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