Mr Rolls and Mr Royce

lolok

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Mr Rolls and Mr Royce

Posted by lolok on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 6:23 AM

For all you car modellers out there. One Hundred years ago today,a certain Mr Henry Rolls met a certain Mr Charles Royce. The rest of the story is as they history. Where would the Lancaster/Spitfire/Mustang,etc, be without that beautiful merlin engine. We may never be able to afford their cars but we can dream.

Jim Ryan Ex-Pat Limey in warsaw.Poland. " MENE,MENE,TEKEL U PHARSIN"

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 7:26 AM

Isn't that Herr Rolls und Herr Royce now?

Still at least the aircraft engines are still British.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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kaleu

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February 2003
From: Racing capital of the world- Indy

Posted by kaleu on Tuesday, May 4, 2004 7:34 PM

Aren't they owned by Mr. BMW along with Vickers? Just curious to know....

Erik "Don't fruit the beer." Newest model buys: More than I care to think about. It's time for a support group.

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KJ200

Member since
July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, May 5, 2004 2:26 AM

As I understand matters, BMW own the Rolls Royce brand name, while VW own the Rolls Royce manufacturing plant at Crewe, and the Bentley brand.

While Roll Royce aero engines, are I assume, part of Vickers.

Confused?

I am.

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 5, 2004 5:01 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200

As I understand matters, BMW own the Rolls Royce brand name, while VW own the Rolls Royce manufacturing plant at Crewe, and the Bentley brand.

While Roll Royce aero engines, are I assume, part of Vickers.

Confused?

I am.

Ironic how something with so much class can be built in Crewe..

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Wednesday, May 5, 2004 7:37 AM

Crewe has an engineering pedigree stretching back to the mid-19th century when the railways arrived and set up their main workshops.

However at no point has Crewe ever been linked to style!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 12:48 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200

However at no point has Crewe ever been linked to style!

Karl

Thats what I was on about.. Then again, I can't really say too much bad things about Crewe.. I'm from Luton.

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, May 6, 2004 2:14 AM

Michael, if I were you I'd leave matters right there...........

.......you do realise this discussion means nothing to our friends on the opposite side of the pond!

By the Jagdpanzer looks great.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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LemonJello

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February 2004
From: Green Lantern Corps HQ on Oa

Posted by LemonJello on Thursday, May 6, 2004 2:32 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200

.......you do realise this discussion means nothing to our friends on the opposite side of the pond!
Karl

I was wondering if this was the polite, British way of saying that you grew up on the wrong side of the tracks??? Big Smile [:D]

I'm more of an Aston-Martin fan myself (another car that I will NEVER Disapprove [V]

own)

A day in the Corps is like a day on the farm; every meal is a banquet, every paycheck a fortune, every formation a parade... The Marine Corps is a department of the Navy? Yeah...The Men's Department.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 2:35 AM

I prefer Saab....though they are owned by GM now.... Disapprove [V]

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, May 6, 2004 3:21 AM

Lemon, you have Cleveland, we also have a Cleveland, but also the likes of Crewe and Luton. You getting my drift.

As for Aston Martin, they are just another Ford product now, long with Land Rover, Range Rover and Jaguar. Sad but true.

Heath, Saab's just haven't been the same since they became Opel Vectra's in drag under GM's auspices.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 6, 2004 3:42 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200

Michael, if I were you I'd leave matters right there...........

.......you do realise this discussion means nothing to our friends on the opposite side of the pond!

I know I know, but somebody has to come from there!

QUOTE:

By the Jagdpanzer looks great.

Karl

Thanks..

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, May 6, 2004 6:30 AM

I wouldn't worry...........I'm from West Drayton, famous only for being home of UK air traffic control for many years.

It's about 3 miles from Heathrow, and best avoided, apart for the model shop that is.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 1:55 AM

Well you know what they say.. The best way to see Luton is in your rear view mirror..

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LemonJello

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From: Green Lantern Corps HQ on Oa

Posted by LemonJello on Friday, May 7, 2004 4:40 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200

Lemon, you have Cleveland, we also have a Cleveland, but also the likes of Crewe and Luton. You getting my drift.

I think so. It's more like the southside of Chicago and East St Louis?

QUOTE:
As for Aston Martin, they are just another Ford product now, long with Land Rover, Range Rover and Jaguar. Sad but true.

They may be a Ford product, but they're still more exotic than any Ford I've owned. Now, I'm more of a Chevy man, but I wouldn't turn down the keys to a Jaquar or Aston-Martin Vanquish if offered, paid in full.

A day in the Corps is like a day on the farm; every meal is a banquet, every paycheck a fortune, every formation a parade... The Marine Corps is a department of the Navy? Yeah...The Men's Department.

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Friday, May 7, 2004 6:26 AM

Lemon, it's just a bit chessey that on Aston keys, Ford have queezed the AM logo into a little oval!!!!! That and the switch gear if from one of their company rep mobiles.

Cheap or what.

Strange thing is, all the Jags have bespoke switch gear and keys?

Go figure.

I think I'll just stick to drooling over Lotus Elise's, and TVR Tuscans.

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 7, 2004 7:04 AM

I'll keep to Land Rover..

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KJ200

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From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Saturday, May 8, 2004 6:02 AM

That'll be a Ford then!!!!!!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

Member since
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 10, 2004 1:47 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200

That'll be a Ford then!!!!!!

Karl

Oh no, not this one.. Its a British leyland one.. Don't know if I'm supposed to be happy about that, but at least its not a Daggenham Dustbin.

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Monday, May 10, 2004 3:59 AM

British Leyeland, two of the most frightening words in the English language, along with 'Lucas'.

LOL

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 10, 2004 4:02 AM

Ahh.. Lucas. The prince of darkness..

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:33 AM

As an ex-mini owner there is place in my heart for the prince of darkness' products.

Needless to say it is a very dark and bitter place!!!!!!!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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nicholma

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September 2003
From: New Zealand

Posted by nicholma on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:51 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Michaelvk

Ahh.. Lucas. The prince of darkness..

Our first rally car (Mini Cooper) had 4 of them; they even provided some trade support - won our class by 14 minutes on one event so they weren't too bad but there again it was a daylight rally!!

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"

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leemitcheltree

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From: Washington State

Posted by leemitcheltree on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:24 AM

Lucas.........nasty.
I've spent the last 20 years restoring and working on Jaguar, Daimler, Rover, MG cars ....... gutta percha wiring looms........arrgh

Cheers, LeeTree
Remember, Safety Fast!!!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:53 AM

Knock on wood I haven't had too much trouble from the prince so far. Only thing was the unexplained failure of the warning and brake lamps, but that was just as inexplicably fixed. Other than the odd power surge to the lights and wipers everything is fine. Guess its a fairly new set at 23 years old.

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KJ200

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July 2003
From: Bicester, England

Posted by KJ200 on Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:28 AM

Yeah, my Mini was only about 6 years old when I bought it, but had serious appetite for flasher control blocks.

I think I got through 3 in a year at one stage!!!!!

Having said that my Herald, which was at least 25 years old was fine. Then I think it only had about two wires, a fuse and a bulb. Even the washer jets were manual!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:43 AM

G'day Folks,

Woudn't own anything other than a Holden myself, everything else you'll need two of so you can drive one when the other is being repaired.
Mr Rolls, was killed when piloting his own aircraft during a flying display, I can't remember the year.
Mr Royce, was an engineer working with Locomotives, he is the brain child of the RR Merlin Engine, also when Rolls was killed the RR was changed from red to black, fits into a 57 Chevy [one does exsist in Victoria, it's road registered] place called Castlemaine in Victoria, Australia.

Regards
Rob.

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