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Posted by overkillphil on Saturday, April 2, 2005 9:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ajlafleche

[quotebreath control helps control the shakes some. .

For "nervous" shakes,. you're right, controlling your breathing and careful fcussing is great. However, what the original poster is discussing is a physiological/neurological side effect of the medication and not something that can really be controlled by force of will, relaxation techniques, yoga, etc.

Consider me duly chastised Herr Doktor, I shall endeavor to keep my opinions to myself from here forward.
my favorite headache/current project: 1/48 Panda F-35 "I love the fact that dumb people don't know who they are. I hope I'm not one of them" -Scott Adams
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Posted by 9x19mm on Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:28 AM
Gratz on quitting stick with it you can do it ...if you really have to want to. I quit 3 years ago cold turkey, but I had a reason to quit. I quit because I watched a very close friend of mine die from cancer, he chewed since he was about 8 years old. He was only 32. It was a very sad time and also a time that I feel I should have been there alot more for him. But I guess some good has come from it several people I know have quit also since then.
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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:24 PM
[quotebreath control helps control the shakes some. .

For "nervous" shakes,. you're right, controlling your breathing and careful fcussing is great. However, what the original poster is discussing is a physiological/neurological side effect of the medication and not something that can really be controlled by force of will, relaxation techniques, yoga, etc.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by overkillphil on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 2:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wm3456

I have a friend eho paints 54mm figures. He's had the "shakes" for years. when asked how he can paint, he replied he times his brushstrokes between his jitters. I don't know if he was serious or not, but his work is beautiful to see.
I assume that the tremors are only temporary and like a bad seafood dinner, will soon pass.

I don't know if anyone else can do this, but I find breath control helps control the shakes some. You know, the same trick you use when target shooting, take a breath exhale half way, hold it, fire (paint)then release the rest of the breath. It's tedious, but when the cockpit is on the line, it helps.
my favorite headache/current project: 1/48 Panda F-35 "I love the fact that dumb people don't know who they are. I hope I'm not one of them" -Scott Adams
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Posted by ajlafleche on Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:52 PM
Thumbs Up [tup] Way to go on the quitting! Thumbs Up [tup]
I took two doses of Welbutrin (for depression) several years ago. Be relaly careful, this is not the benign drug it's painted to be. I was unable to sit for four hours after each dose. I've known several other people who've had similar experiences withy it. (I called the doc who prescibed it an told him I was not taking anymore and insited on a withdrawal plan for the other med he had me own.)
OTOH, my mother used this to quit smolking after over 50 years of addiction with no obvious side effects to the Zyban. The cigarettes had quite another effect on her, though. By the time she got around to quitting, her liungs were already pretty much destroyed.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by maffen on Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:51 AM
congrads David Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow] hey maybe it's time to do some camo paintjob Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by David A. Scott on Sunday, March 27, 2005 9:17 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Swanny


By the way, how 'up state' are you? I used to live in Auburn and in Erieville near Syracuse.


I am in Albany. Probably the only metropolitan area in the US with one LHR. Sad [:(]
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Posted by lito.sf on Thursday, March 24, 2005 6:14 PM
I've managed to quit smoking 3 years ago without any drugs and the first 2 months were a bit hard. But after that it's been great for me . The best thing if done so far!!
Good luck with your treatment you wont regret quiting smoking!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:21 PM
My hands start to shake a bit when I'm hungry. I can't model when I haven't eaten for a few hours.
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Posted by wm3456 on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:04 PM
I have a friend eho paints 54mm figures. He's had the "shakes" for years. when asked how he can paint, he replied he times his brushstrokes between his jitters. I don't know if he was serious or not, but his work is beautiful to see.
I assume that the tremors are only temporary and like a bad seafood dinner, will soon pass.
I've been sidelined for deveral months due to several eye surgeries, so I know your frustration. On a brighter note however, my reference library has increased by leaps and bounds.
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Posted by elfkin on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:08 AM
Zyban/Welbutrin (both the same drug) can cause some temporary side effects, though if they continue or are bothersome, you may want to contact your physician. I just quit in September, hastened I might add) by a one week hospital stay that smoking did not cause but certainly aggravated. After one week of THE worst food, sleep deprivation (being awoken every 3 hours for vitals/blood draws/meds) I ever experienced, you can bet I was sure motivated to quit....never want to do that again. Good good luck on the smoking cessation, take it one day at a time and give yourself a reward each week...oh and when you are not spending $3-6/day on smokes, you can divert that spending to something truly useful....more models :)
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Posted by Swanny on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:52 PM
I quit with the help of Welbutrin - no tremors or other bad side effects and it worked. I have been smoke free for nearly four years now. What I can tell you is that those face in the dirt urges that happen will get fewer and further between as time goes by. Even now I get the urge every once in a while but they are becoming easier to fight off and only happen about once every other month now. I also have lots more money to spend on models now - lots more! Keep up the fight and if you ever need someone to talk to just send me an email.

By the way, how 'up state' are you? I used to live in Auburn and in Erieville near Syracuse.
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Posted by overkillphil on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:59 PM
I'm not on any drugs that would cause tremors but I do have a slight tremor in my hands naturally for some reason. It does make painting details a little dicey.
my favorite headache/current project: 1/48 Panda F-35 "I love the fact that dumb people don't know who they are. I hope I'm not one of them" -Scott Adams
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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:35 AM
I've tried to quit smoking so many times, and I guess I should still keep trying while I'm still young. Too bad about the tremors. One of my previous managers went on Zyban, but if tremors is all you get, consider yourself lucky. He turned into a complete beast, as well as another good friend who went on it. It induced severe mood swings with them.
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Monday, March 21, 2005 2:25 PM
Hand tremor is very difficult to model with. I have a medical condition that on some days causes mild tremor, especially if under any stress. Needless to say, I don't attempt any fine detail work on those days, but I can still do the non-critical stuff like filling seams or cleaning up sprue residue on parts. Hope your condition is temporary & clears up soon.

Regards, Rick
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Posted by flippersdad on Monday, March 21, 2005 1:41 PM
Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] Good job on quiting smoking! I quit several years ago and it was and is totally worth it. Take it one day at a time and you can do it!
Cheers,
Eric
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 21, 2005 1:35 PM
Depending on how long you are on it-but they'll stop soon. If you're interested check out www.mayoclinic.com/ for the straight poop.
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Posted by wibhi2 on Monday, March 21, 2005 1:34 PM
Congradulations. I can't answer your question as I have yet to quit, but thanks for the heads up.
3d modelling is an option a true mental excercise in frusrtation
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Posted by Lucien Harpress on Monday, March 21, 2005 1:11 PM
I can't say I have, but nice job trying to quit smoking!! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] All I can say is stick with it, and if you aren't able to get much done, just remember it's all for a worthy cause!
That which does not kill you makes you stranger...
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The worst thing that can happen to a modeller.
Posted by David A. Scott on Monday, March 21, 2005 12:50 PM
Tremor, or essential tremor.

I got it.

Fortunately it is temporary. I am taking Zyban to quit smoking. Good news is that it is working, I have gone almost three weeks without a smoke. One of the side effects of Zyban is tremor. When my hand is at rest there is no motion. Once I try to do anything with my hands, especially intricate things, my hands start making a cyclical motion back and forth. It is really frustrating trying to do anything other than doing general painting and assembling of larger peices.

Hopefully I'll be off this in another week, just wonder how long the side effects will last after getting off of it.

Anyone else had this happen?
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