Gb forum losing its touch?

It's also considered bad Forum Ettiquette to double post .

Regards, Rick

i share the similar feelings. nonetheless, im not involved with those GB's, so couldn't really respond for them or to them, as i don't know how they're set up

Everyone has their own idea of what constitutes a good GB. Some people are just looking for like minded individuals who share an interest and not so much a specific build per se. I say if they attract other participants then what the heck, who are we to stop them?

I agree with Dave. In fact my posting of a Group Build idea, initially very broad, caused responses that got it narrowed down. Best option we have is to "police" ourselves, and if it does not meet your own standard, then don't participate.

These broad brush group builds do not or should not in any way hamper your own enjoyment of the hobby or this site.

Sorry for double posting didnt know, and I still enjoy the site just the same.

QUOTE: Originally posted by ddayomaha I popped into the Gb forum and noticed some GB's like WW 2armor, or German Armor GB. I think that these Gb's are not necessary and should be stopped because it voids the main idea of a group build, people sharing advice on a similair topic. Thats hard to do when a GB is covering every German armored vehicle in WW2 or even worse every vehicle in WW2. Sorry just needed to vent my frustration but lets narrow down the topics to what they used to be.

I feel the same way as you. Especially with they say, something like, blabla Group build, Starts now, ends whenever!WTF! and then they get like 2 people to join. Ohwell, nothing I can do about it.

I think a lot of times some people get excited over the whole GB idea and think "I'll start one!!", I've recently seen about 15 rise up and fall down the same week like that and usually they were the broad type GB's...

As for me I just ignore them... like I said usually they drop off the first page rather quickly so they don't get in the way too much... (except when the creator starts bumping it himself and asking why no one has joined )

I figure a little time on the forum and they'll get their wings and think of a better subject the next time they create one...

i want to start a "Any scale model group build"
anyone want to join

QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman i want to start a "Any scale model group build" anyone want to join

I just squirted my milkshake out of my nose. Yah, I agree, much too broad of a GB, but as long as it sparks interest I guess. I get caught up in them also and out of 30 in my GB only 6-8 finished. I'm one who didn't.

no biggie Tiger... I'm the same way, but the ones I did finish made me feel good and afterwards I realized it's because those meant something to me for some reason...

I just got into my first group build because the topic interested me, feel free to join or not to join, but whatever you do the idea is to have fun, learn from others and help where you can.

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 no biggie Tiger... I'm the same way, but the ones I did finish made me feel good and afterwards I realized it's because those meant something to me for some reason...

Two of the three that I've finished since I've joined were in a GB. I should have finished another, but circumstances arose. I really enjoy the comradery, but sometimes there is a bit of pressure to finish, which is both good and bad.

I had an idea for a group build where only ohioans could join but i got flamed for that so i made it any ohio theme... Not many people on my member list. But the ones on it will definately finish, I think. So if you want to join, join, if not, then don't. But be sure to join my All Ohio Groub Build

QUOTE: Originally posted by Captain Caveman i want to start a "Any scale model group build" anyone want to join

ooh ooh ooh, and it starts now and ends whenever, and you can build any scale, any topic, any time, and colour it anything
I think it's a GREAT idea, we'll all learn nothing about everything

LOL, man too many are cropping up left, right, and centre, for no apparent reason. Some guy created an Ohio GB, because he met a couple of members that were from Ohio. Only after a couple of...informative replies...did he finally manage to turn it into SOMETHING of a productive idea.
Either way, the GBs were not what they used to be. The incentive is kind of gone. I've joined a few, but no one seems to care. 30 people reply, and you get maybe 5 actually building. Most allow the wearing of the banner immediately, so you have people that have 20 images in their sig, but have built 2 models. A shame. Also, this "self-policing" policy clearly doesn't work, as that's been the system implemented so far, so for every older member that has etiquette and understands what the GBs are about, there are 20 others who say "who cares, we just feel like having one, and that's all that matters.
I'm actually quite frustrated by the apparent lack of moderator attention this forum has received. A while ago they jumped in because of off-topic discussions and the whole mood of the forum changed. Since then, there's been a significant LACK of their presence here...

Ditto to that zokissima but it looks like the Ohio GB is shaping up to a decent little build

I don’t post frequently here on FSM, but I do read the topics posted often (also like GBs too). You know at one point, GBs were something that allowed every member, who was interested in certain subject to participate in. people would post an idea, asked if anyone would be interested and then set a date so people could join who didn’t have a kit at that moment. Then they go from there...
But now it’s like: * Hey! Start Now! Finish whenever, I don’t care… Do whatever you want. I have a kit-- let’s start now!* After some time it’s gets frustrating. There’s quite a few GB’s that I would like to join in on, but people don’t ask if anyone is interested—they just start it. Then in a few weeks it’s no longer active. In ways it is get out of hand. But at the same time though, I think people just get excited about an idea for a GB and wanted to share it with everyone at that instant.

Yes, it is building momentum, and thankfully so.

Well, after realizing that the whole GB concept just doesn't work for my pace of modelling (slow, sporadic, and often sidetracked), I've completely given up trying to participate in any of them.

However, even though I'm not interested in the GB system, I don't see how the "frivolous" GBs should bother anyone...join 'em or don't, seems pretty simple to me. The ones that are truly bad ideas will die the deaths they deserve through natural selection.
See one you don't like? Ignore it, and maybe it'll go away. And even if it doesn't, why begrudge the few individuals who are enjoying it their fun?

Oh, and I agree that some of them are pretty silly...but again, who does it bother?
We should try to not let our personal sensibilities unjustly infringe on other folk's harmless enjoyment of the hobby.

Well said J-hulk I would just prefer to see some old-fashhioned GB's thats all.

I like participating in GB's, but you do have to be selective. I've overcommitted at times & you do feel some pressure, but it's all self induced. Most of the ones I've joined have been pretty well organized & have several members with active builds. It's an excellent way to get to know some of the members better. I prefer GB's with a somewhat focused theme, but not too restricted to a particular kit or markings.

Regards, Rick

I joined my first GB-it was originally Ohioans building planes that have someting to do with Ohio. It made me do some research-and I settled on John Glenn's F-86. It may not be a GB aimed at technique but more at community. It also starts on my birthday and will be a fun distraction. So if it doesn't pull your chain just pass by and go to your bitch session instead.

I don't participate in group builds, but I have nothing against them either. I'm not a "groupie" kind of guy when it comes to modeling. I do it to relax, be alone and stay off of deadlines and protracted discussions. I will discuss the finished models all you want, but stopping in the middle of a project to gab across the net is, well, not my cup of tea.

Steve

No one's bitching, but merely commenting. The whole point of the discussion is not that some builds should be here or shouldn't, but that members should give them at least SOME thought and effort. Your Ohio GB started off as a pretty stupid idea, with no ground rules, no subject matter, no outlines. It was started because a member saw a couple of other members that were from his region. All that is fine and well, but this is a modelling forum, and as such, at least some effort should go towards furthering our hobby. There is nothing wrong with having an Ohio GB, but basing it on the sole reason that it was FOR people from Ohio is discriminatory. It was altered, and its purpose was changed, to an excellent standard, of furthering awareness of Ohio by allowing people to chose a specific subject and learn about it.

Stupid does not sound like 'commenting'.

Easy does it guys.........

Guys settle down.

Trowlfazz, this post was started because people were concerned with how the GBs seemed to be losing their touch, not a specifc attack on certain group builds and certainly not a b**** session as you called it, memebers here are only stating their opinions and looking for ways to improve the site, so please do not use harsh language because things like this have caused huge feuds and the demise of members and the Off topic forum. thank you

Sorry to overreact, guys, but I thought it was a great idea (not mine) and a way to have "penpals" as such. But apparently I have too much time on my hands and must stew over trivial things.

Wow, how did this turn into dumping on the Ohio group build? Sounds like he was just trying to get a bunch modelers who live near enough that they may actually meet once in a while in the flesh. Sounds like advnacing this hobby to me.

I apologize… I didn’t mean to be negative. My post was mean and contemptible.