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Posted by shaun68 on Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:00 AM
Just hang in there dude. The strength of your character will be demonstrated by how well you deal with this sort of s@#%, on an ongoing basis. Many years ago, my younger brother failed to accept I could build models better than him, so he set about to destruct little bits off each of them, bit by bit, until he was satisfied they looked a little worse than his. It all backfired on him though when I built a Pro Stocker he was interested in, to give to him as a gift, only to turn the thing into a piece of crud. When I gave it to him, he said "What happened to it". I simply replied with words to the effect "Perhaps you might now know how it feels". Harsh I know, but he never touched my models again after that.
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Posted by mfsob on Monday, May 8, 2006 2:04 PM
Just ONE hand? *marvels at the restraint shown*
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, May 8, 2006 4:23 AM
 m60a3 wrote:
 I see this post has gone active again. Well, that's coincidental because last night, my brother in law was at my house and I happened to be working on an M1A1. I had a Bradley sitting on the table next to me that was completed.
 What does my brother in law do? He starts making shooting noises and poking the Bradley with his fingers. I sternly told him to cut it out and he continued. I told him again, and then he starts pushing down on the antennaes. A man in his thirtys.
 What do us modelers seem to have handy when we are working? Yes. Sharp things. My brother in law has a new appreciation for that bit of information. His hand should be fine.

                                                                                                                        -60


Gotta hand it to ya, that'll teach 'imEvil [}:)]Laugh [(-D]

I've been following this thread since it became active again & I see there's alot of good ideas here. I'm not quite sure if there's anything that I can add to them.  I do understand your position & while my g.f. is also confined to a wheelchair I know how difficult  it is to reach certain places. Just hang in there & work on your family about getting some things straight, shelves put up & to make your point well stated... read the above postSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Mischief [:-,]Laugh [(-D]  Just do Not give up on the one thing that helps you keep your hands, mind & eyes focussed.  I do know that is a must in my hectic life.
If you lose your sense of humor, you've lost everything
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Posted by m60a3 on Sunday, May 7, 2006 9:51 PM
 I see this post has gone active again. Well, that's coincidental because last night, my brother in law was at my house and I happened to be working on an M1A1. I had a Bradley sitting on the table next to me that was completed.
 What does my brother in law do? He starts making shooting noises and poking the Bradley with his fingers. I sternly told him to cut it out and he continued. I told him again, and then he starts pushing down on the antennaes. A man in his thirtys.
 What do us modelers seem to have handy when we are working? Yes. Sharp things. My brother in law has a new appreciation for that bit of information. His hand should be fine.

                                                                                                                        -60
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Posted by jhande on Sunday, May 7, 2006 3:17 PM
Glamdring, have you ever had your family and Doctor sit down and have a heart to heart about what different forms of therapy would be good for you?

Since my accident / injury I have to do all kinds of things. My wife actually sat in the Doctors office with me to find out what I can do to hopefully get better and keep from going totally crazy. We discussed lots of things, even what was important to me, such as keeping my models safe once built. At first she thought model building was just a fun past time until the Doctor explained to her that it helps eye and hand motor skills, finger dexterity, patience and when doing a little here and there, my memory. I have also sat down with my family (kids) and explained to them what I need and expect from them in order for things to work in my favor for recovery. But it all pulls together with talk sessions with the Doctor from time to time.

Maybe you can find somebody to help back you up?

Good luck and don't give up building.  Wink [;)]

Best wishes!


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Posted by centerdeck on Sunday, May 7, 2006 2:01 PM

I feel your pain.  I figure in my life I have probably completed about 25 models.  Between druken shipmates, druken college roomates, an one drunken and particulary angry ex girlfriend, I have about 4 not destroyed.  Of those four, one is a snap-tite that I bought to practice with an airbrush, and the other three were sci-fi that I always kept hidden for fear of ridicule.  My lessons learned:

-beer goggles make models look better

-models cry out to be handled and fondled and they constantly express this need, only people are not aware of it until about the fifth shot of tequila.

-if you are fortunate enough to have an indication (or if you know you screwed up) and an argument is ensuing, at least pick the battleground (her place)

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Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, September 1, 2005 12:36 PM
To my fellow Wisconsinite!

Hang in there is all I can say. I have one older brother and while we were growing up he always managed to find a way to break my models. My dad once built for me the old Revell 1/32 Corsair. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Granted I should have never left it on the couch one day but I never though he'd actually sit on it! Snap went the wings. Then I had a B-1 hanging in the hallway between our bedrooms. Our psycho cat chased my brother down the hallway while he was pulling a shirt on over his head. Down came the B-1. Then he once wanted to see if a P-40 of mine could really glide. There went the prop blades and landing gear.

I remember when I got out of college nine years ago and where my skills were then. I think that's when my models started to finally get to the point where I wasn't ashamed to show off my work! LOL! Once you get your own place, be it your own apartment or a place at your wonderful grandma's, you'll really start to get quite serious about your skills and how much you put into your models. At least that's how it was for me. I look back on some of the model airplanes I still have from my high school days. Back then I thought they were the cat's meow but looking at them now I wonder if I did them with my eyes closed. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I know it seems (and it is) bad now but in the future you'll look back and be thankful that the kits which got broken were not as high a standard as what they will be like in the future. I don't know if I'm making sense but I hope you see what I'm trying to say. I had a lot of planes broken due to family members and lots of moving but I'm glad it happened to me back then and not now.

My best to you. My sympathies too. I think we've all been where you are now. I know I sure was. Just hang in there and this, too, shall pass.

Eric

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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:53 AM
I'm glad that I have "educated" my family and grilfriend properly.
They know that my models are NOT toys, and they may NOT be touched. (unless with direct supervision)

I have my models in a glass cabinet, IMHO the best way to store finished model.
I understand that a glass cabinet maybe out of reach for you (space and money wise)

But a couple of shelves should be feasible? They wil gather dust that way, the best way to prevent your mom from cleaning them, is doing it yourself.

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:58 PM
It's the life of a modeler, learn to live and adapt.

You will move out several times from place to place, each move a few models will not make or will meet demise at the works of roomates, then you get married, have children, cats and dogs, maybe a bird, all too will have children, who will then move in a stay for the summer, all the while, you will always be looking for a "safe" place to keep your finished projects from their innocent irrogance and couriosity.

Its a never ending cycle that we all face. Sorry, been there, still there, and still trying to protect my "dust collection" from mothers who want to help clean the house, spouse's who feels that my stuff is "clutter", kids, dog(s), cat, and occasional loose parakeet.

Scott

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Posted by zokissima on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:07 AM
I have a tent that I sleep in close to mine, with gun and an eye allways ready. lol j/k. Seriously, try to impart to your family the kind of disrespect and disregard and selfishness they are demonstrating by treating your finished models in such a careless manner.
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Posted by Glamdring on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:18 AM
No, just ineptitude on my parents part.. They have a habit of not thinking before they do something. (I guess that where I get it from) I know my mom doesn't hate that I do this hobby, she just doesn't take the time to look before grabbing a model (snaps a piece off), I know this because she bought majority of my kits until I got my summer jobs 7 years ago. I just graduated from college in May, so I have been gone for 8 months a year for the last 4 years. During that time, I could not oversee where things were placed, and when I left the model was displayed on a counter in the living room by some other older projects that for the most part still exist miraculously. How it got from the counter to the back of the cupboard is beyond me.

Robert 

"I can't get ahead no matter how hard I try, I'm gettin' really good at barely gettin' by"

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Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, August 29, 2005 3:25 PM
School's opening soon. Do you have a school couselor? Sounds to me like some passive aggressive behavior on your parents' part, if you're giving us the whole story. Was the ship "stored" in a place you were told to not keep it? Even an angry parent should not have treated a valued possession like that.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by overkillphil on Monday, August 29, 2005 11:38 AM
I've had some builds wrecked by an apathetic parent before. It sucks. Ultimately, I solved the problem by moving out, but that isn't always an option. Hang in there, keep building, and someday circumstances will probably change. Congratulations on your Grand Championship award. Our 4-H fair is the closest we come to a model show around here so I always look forward to see what is coming out of the 4-H clubs each year.
my favorite headache/current project: 1/48 Panda F-35 "I love the fact that dumb people don't know who they are. I hope I'm not one of them" -Scott Adams
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Posted by Glamdring on Monday, August 29, 2005 8:58 AM
Thank you all for your words of encouragement. To answer questions, I really don't have a place to display them, but since I moved to my new room, I have more space available if I could ever get some shelves made for me. My 6' bookcase is covered with books, so thats out.

I'm going to talk to my Grandma about this, since she is the only one who cares about the hobbies of all her grandchildren. Hopefully she can light a fire and get the safety of my models taken care of, since my parents won't do anything about it.

In the mean time, I'm holding off on starting any new projects and just finishing the 2 I have going right now. I have too much money stuck into this hobby to just quit now Wink [;)]

Robert 

"I can't get ahead no matter how hard I try, I'm gettin' really good at barely gettin' by"

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:41 PM
Don't you have a bookcase, dresser, or shelf to place your finished builds?

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 Eric 

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Posted by m60a3 on Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:20 PM
You hang in there, man. It happens to all of us. Why, of all people, family members don't seem to understand is beyond me.
My wife and 6 yr. old son might be starting to come around though. They are getting into modeling and are learning to be more cautious around them.
Might not work in your case, but I wish you luck.
-60
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Posted by diggeraone on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:44 AM
I can understand were you are coming from,but I learned that the enjoiment comes from building.So when one of my models get injured,like my Missouri,I put it back together and take a picture of it to keep.Modeling can show us a lot of thing in life,like what has happen in your life with your M.S.You still have the awards for the ship and that there is an adchivement that you can share with others in the same boat as you.I know it is heart braking but you always got to look at the good side of things.Now you have a bunch of pieces that can be used for a strach bluid,Also think of the 4th of July and rigg them with fireworks.You can have your own war for independance.I know that you have put a lot of work in them but what ever life throwns at you keep on modeling for those you could inspirer.Digger
Put all your trust in the Lord,do not put confidence in man.PSALM 118:8 We are in the buisness to do the impossible..G.S.Patton
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:35 AM
Sorry to hear this, Glamdring. My parents and ex-wives always considered models as toys or a waste of money. Just hang in there and try to let them know how serious it is to you.
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Posted by grandadjohn on Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:17 PM
I have to agree with Matt, please don't quit, building is good therapy, just need to find a place that is safe or that your family will leave alone. Good luck
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Posted by tho9900 on Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:15 PM
I agree with Gringe... I am faced with a lack of space and a plethora of neighborhood kids who like to see if "is that really wire there?" and have broken most of the antenna from aircraft I have around the house.

My solution? I went out solicitating for recipients for my models. The dentist that I go to now has at least 4 hanging from one of her treatment rooms for the little boys to stare up at while they get their teeth worked on. I have a P-47 in the works that is going to a local classroom for new arrivals from Latin America, it is a replica of one from escuadron 201, a Mexican fighter squadron that flew with the US in WWII. and so on and so on... I've actually found there is more of an audiance for my models than I have time to make them...

I feel for ya, and after seeing some of my better models destroyed by neighborhood children, I understand... just don't stop building! Libraries, schools, doctors offices etc. might be more than happy to get a couple of models for display! Just ask around...
---Tom--- O' brave new world, That has such people in it!
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Posted by gringe88 on Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:55 PM
First off man, its quite alright to post that kinda stuff here. we all have schizen like that happen to us, and we all know the feeling. do that any time you like man.

if you really are having that much trouble keeping all of your stuff unbroken, then start askin for a small cabinet to put it in, or find someplace to donate it to. i cant believe that that kinda thing would happen. if the formentioned stuff is undoable for ya, then all i can say is clear a place amongst your own belongings and put it there, someplace where they dont bother going, or generally leave alone as your private space. I am seriously sorry about what happened man. nonetheless, I do suggest that you don't stop building. If model building is as important to you as you say it is, then don't stop, and keep at your family until they get the hint that this stuff is as important to you as sports trophies are to some people. thats the best way i can put it into context. then again, ive seen those things tossed into even worse places on ocassion....

NEways, just keep at it man, and feel free to post again about your problems. were here to talk to each other, thats what a forum's about.

-Matt
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I'm sick of it!
Posted by Glamdring on Saturday, August 27, 2005 6:16 PM
Please forgive me, but I need to vent somewhere, and a simpathetic audience seems to be the best place to do it.

I was digging through one of my cupboards in my house that my mom has thrown a couple kits in, looking for a new project to work on while the primer on my current project dries. What did I see? well, two model boxes, crushed under 20 lbs of crap. That didn't bug me too much, since the only thing that was hurt was the boxes, and I was planning on dumping the one anyway. Then I saw the thing that broke my heart. My fully rigged Roman Warship was a smashed by all the aforementioned crap.

Last year my sister and II built Academy's Roman Warship and she showed it at my local county fair through 4-H. We both worked on the construction of it, and I was the lucky one to do the extensive rigging that took me at least 8 hours (while showing her how to do it) and we agreed that after the fair, it would become exclusively my model. Well, I was shocked that it actually was the Grand Champion piece. I could never do that when I was in 4-H, so I was quite proud that she could.

So, there was some extremely minor damage in transit from the fair, one or two oars fell off. Nothing big. Needless to say, the model I saw today was in a considerably different state. Most of the oars were out. The main sail was no longer attached to the mast. The rigging that held the mast in place was flopping around. The front sail was no longer attached. The thing was a mess. All that time down the drain. And of course, I have no pictures of the way it looked finished.

I have told my family time and time again that I don't like working on my models because I am sick of them getting trashed. This is yet another example of that. I also remember specifically telling them I wanted this one kept safe and in pristine condition, not jammed back in a cupboard with a bunch of things piled on top of it.

Needless to say, I am considering putting a stop to building any more models even though I really don't want to. I have so much spare time now that I could pound through a bunch of kits, but why bother if the are all going suffer the same fate at the hands of an apathetic family. They just don't understand how important this hobby is to me, despite my repeated conversations on the topic. Not only do I enjoy it, but it is good for my fine motor skills as well. I have muscular dystrophy and am in a wheelchair, so building models isn't exactly easy, and it isn't getting easier....

Oh well, griping about it won't fix the ship (and I'm not exactly sure I can rescue it either). I truely envy you all that have a room devoted to modeling and keeping those models safe.

Thanks for listening to my rant.Smile [:)]

Robert 

"I can't get ahead no matter how hard I try, I'm gettin' really good at barely gettin' by"

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