Guy or Gal?

frostygirl wrote:

gigalyncon wrote: LOL....how about a tank with a flower camo scheme? actually saw a pic of a very nice russian ww2 tank w/ a leaf & stem camo scheme not too long ago, it was very pretty !   frosty

i saw it too it was on a website can't remember the site

also pics from russia with girls painting a dead tanks pink ( it was part of one of those street art grafitti type thinks

i did not like it i think the dead tank should have been left alone as (sort of) a memorial to the guys that may have died in it

it sort of  makes lite of the war

 

well in the real world we have a pretty good mix of men an women in every field

but we here are in a (sort of ) fantasy world here and  we are physically adults many of us are a kid on the inside still  and in a kids world the stereotype still exists

i am not saying it is right or wrong  but it is how it is

Guy here.  As far as females interested in model building, my 10 year old daughter has expressed interest in building as I get back into as I get back into the hobby.  She's a big Star Wars fan, and she bought an Obi-Wan fighter snapkit with her own money that we built together.  Apparently, she enjoyed it so much she now wants to build the more complicated Starcruiser in the series.  Not sure how long she'll want to build, but I'm glad to accomodate her as long as she's interested.

I like a lot of what Frosty said.

I have 3 daughters. the 2 oldest (4 and 5) see me building my ship models and immediately make lego, paper, what ever material ships for me.

I am looking into very easy kits or them. Subject matter doesn't matter. I would love them to get into this. Helps with concentration, creativity, and family bonding. I know, modeling is a personal affair, but to share and help, and congratulate each other is nice way to spend quality time with the kids.

Therefore, any recommendations on easy kits for kids?

Robert 

hey brigg-- this is the flip coin of -"-Marriage is a wonderful institution! (if you want to live in an institution..." src="/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif">)" -- which i know you meant light heartedly--i first met my wife to be when she was 14 -- i was 17-- 1969--after i got to know her for a while i showed her the things (models) i liked to build--had to get confidence that she wouldnt think i was wierd -- you know--at the time i was building 1/25 ertyl trucks- amt bulldozer--aircraft and monogram military vehichles-- all in the midst of our hippie style life--(thats wierd right there!-lol) --time moves forward--still building armor till i am about 21-- then we got married --build for the future--5 yrs later, kids--in short no time for modelling--now i am gonna be 54 yrs old, one grandchild, still married and recently got back into modelling armor--my wife telling me, you can do it!!  -- together we bid on ebay for my first model in 33 yrs-- 1/16 tamiya full option tiger -- came full circle!-- soon i will start on 1/16 t -34/85- she does not build but i alwys get her perspctive on how i'm doing-- a second set of eyes and tough critic --aw-- i'm rambling -- treadwell

frostygirl wrote:

well, there may even b a few folks out there who would prefer 2 b considered as 'modelers' w/o the descriptive gender...  'pretty good... 4 a girl' certainly isn't the reaction i'm hoping 4 when i post my work ! eventually maybe we'll get past all this nonsense & people will b free 2 pursue their interests w/o fear of them being judged as inappropriate by those who would like 2 enforce certain stereotypes... but here's something 2 think about: maybe men build (models, castles, empires) because they can't bear children... the urge 2 'leave something behind' can take so many different forms, maybe this is part of it, anyhow... it would certainly explain why women r less tempted 2 take up the hobby ! i mean, if the smell of the paint & glue bothers u, u can just open the window, rite ? & since many women work a 'second shift' as homemakers after their regular work day, this doesn't always leave a lot of time or energy left over 4 hobbies. as 4 the next generation, build models w/ ur daughters & encourage their interests & they mite just become modelers... same as the boys, some will take 2 it & some will decide it's not 4 them, but exposure & encouragement r the key, i think... sorry 2 b so serious & longwinded ! happy holidays everyone !   frosty

I see your point Frosty, but I really don't think anybody meant to offend, I think it was more out of curiosity to see how many women are modellers, and your right, it doesn't matter.

well, there may even b a few folks out there who would prefer 2 b

considered as 'modelers' w/o the descriptive gender...  'pretty good...

4 a girl' certainly isn't the reaction i'm hoping 4 when i post my work !

eventually maybe we'll get past all this nonsense & people will b free 2

pursue their interests w/o fear of them being judged as inappropriate by those

who would like 2 enforce certain stereotypes...

but here's something 2 think about:

maybe men build (models, castles, empires) because they can't bear children...

the urge 2 'leave something behind' can take so many different forms, maybe this is

part of it, anyhow... it would certainly explain why women r less tempted 2 take up the hobby !

i mean, if the smell of the paint & glue bothers u, u can just open the window, rite ?

& since many women work a 'second shift' as homemakers after their regular work day,

this doesn't always leave a lot of time or energy left over 4 hobbies.

as 4 the next generation, build models w/ ur daughters & encourage their interests &

they mite just become modelers... same as the boys, some will take 2 it & some will

decide it's not 4 them, but exposure & encouragement r the key, i think...

sorry 2 b so serious & longwinded !

happy holidays everyone !

 

frosty  

 

As to the question posted, I can't imagine it would be anything than 90% male, 10% female, if even that.

Rob J wrote:

Im a guy, last time I checked, I've tried getting my girlfrind into modeling but she couldnt care less.

I tried that too, but I think all the lights, the big camera, and the mirrors on the walls and ceiling kinda spooked her.

Scott

Im a guy, last time I checked, I've tried getting my girlfrind into modeling but she couldnt care less.

Flatlander wrote:

Michelle Choquette nearly caused me to quit the hobby!  I can look at most of the models I see in FSM and think, "With a lot of patience, perspiration, and practice I could do that."  When I saw her work I said, "There is no way I could do that, now or ever." I was telling my wife about her just the other day - what a loss it was when she died.  I suspect her work was admired by far more people than she ever realized.  I hope she realizes it now.

I can never forget the issue that had her F4 on the cover.  What happened to her?  Her talent would be a big loss if she is no longer with us.

I like to add Umi Ryuzuki, who is  boat modeler / artist / professional designer in the ship forum.  Umi has been very helpful to all of us who try to scratchbuild.  She makes it look so easy.

Scott

According to my wife, modeling is beyond her because of all the small parts and detail.  This coming from a woman who made her own wedding dress and knits lace shawls and other things that would make your eyes cross.  I think mostly none of the subject matter interests her, and to be fair she really has tried to cultivate an interest in aviation, but sadly it jusn't hasn't taken.

As for myself, I do most of the cooking, and some of the cleaning, but I can't fathom her knitting.  She can do it pretty much on autopilot while I would have to concentrate too hard and would probably give myself a headache.  I did pick up a cross stich of the Wright flyer a couple of years ago that I'm hoping to give a try, but I can't find it now.  Hopefully, I'll be able to get my daughter interested in something model related though.

Guy here. I know there are a few women around here. Frostygirl does some awesome kit bashing, she has a thread right now in the autos section, its a pretty nice looking build!

Michelle Choquette nearly caused me to quit the hobby!  I can look at most of the models I see in FSM and think, "With a lot of patience, perspiration, and practice I could do that."  When I saw her work I said, "There is no way I could do that, now or ever."

I was telling my wife about her just the other day - what a loss it was when she died.  I suspect her work was admired by far more people than she ever realized.  I hope she realizes it now.

Hello,all:

While reading this topic I couldn't help but notice Michelle Choquette's name was mentioned. Am I correct in remembering that she passed away a while back?  I was going over my old FS issues, and came across her work on a 1/32 ID Models B-58.  If it is true she is gone, what a true loss to our hobby, and to the world.  That PERSON was an artist, no matter her gender, and I would have loved to have had a chance to meet her.  God bless her soul.

Jor-el, a rank amature modeler.

And by a landslide, it's clear that we're a sausage-fest here. Predominantly, modelers are male, but there are women here and there breaking into it, and doing a spectacular job of it.

yeah most modeling subjects have a little too much testosterone in them

QUOTE: Originally posted by trowlfazz Now problem here, Bill- I sit down to pee-it's more comfortable and i'm getting old, or lazy!

Lot more accurate, too!

Now problem here, Bill- I sit down to pee-it's more comfortable and i'm getting old, or lazy!

Ho ho, I grew up in a houseful of women, too. Learned to cook, sew etc. same as you.

Oh, and to put the toilet seat DOWN! LOL!!

Although I know these are the stereotypes I grew up in a house full of women so I have a different slant...

When I was young my mom told me her fear was I'd marry some fat lazy woman who wouldn't take care of me so she taught me to cook, sew etc... now in adult life it stuck... (in retrospect my first wife was skinny and lazy and didn't take care of me... hmmm thanks mom!!) Now I am happily married and my wife, growing up a tom-boy, has no qualms about letting me braise a pot roast while she cuts the grass ... ... all in all it works out!

She is interested in modeling but thinks the directions are confusing and the kits difficult so hasn't got into it yet... nevermind she can do one of those 1000 piece round puzzles in two nights... or can replicate something she sees perfectly with a paintbrush... I think once I get her into a simple kit to start on her fear will be conquered and she'll pass me up in skills!

(her problem is she wants to build those $400 wooden replicas of the Bounty and such and doesn't want to start out on one of those Revell PT-109's with 15 pieces in it...)

jinithith2=13
been modeling for 3 years
I still suck though...

No thanks! Been there!

Marriage is a wonderful institution! (if you want to live in an institution...)

Bill-my Mom, who's French, is a terrific chef, but my Dad always did the bubba-que, baked the bread and always made his signature oyster stew on New Year's Day. I've learned to do everything from sewing to cooking rather than resort to marriage again! ;-)

Well, I'm a product of the 60s so the stereotype is there, and I have a kitchen lady of my own! (WHACK ow, what I say, what I say?).

I (or should I say my kids?) am lucky to be able to allow my wife be a stay at home mom. Though I'm the King of the BBQ, cook all the Asian food (Thai and Indian, my specialties) and make the best scratch build pancakes!

QUOTE: Originally posted by Bgrigg Baking is not a "Girl's" role at all. The vast majority of bakers (and chefs) are male. So are most tailors, for that matter. Gender role stereotypes are nasty! I myself can sew, knit and have done needle point (rug hooking actually, which is large scale needle point really). GI Joes proved that boys could also play with dolls action figures. I had quite the collection back in the late 60s. Wish I still had them, in fact! I think it is the toxic paints, or at least the stink of paint. When I said my wife sniffs at my modeling, I meant it literally!

O.K. you are correct that most chefs and tailors are male, but that is the adult world and most of us start our hobbies when we are still kids I think. When we are that young, the old gender roles toward sewing and kitchen work are still somewhat in place. I think it is because sewing and cooking are something that you can turn into a career outside the home that we grow to see them differently in adulthood.

Indeed the old gender roles are nasty business and I say good ridance to them; they are more hardwired into us than most of us care to admit.

I'm certain the smell of glues and solvents also has something to do with whether a person takes up our hobby, but then I've seen the smell drive off several guys who were thinking about taking up the hobby too

Some that I'm aware of within the forum: Frosty, Cassabil, Lizardqueen, and Mosquitomaiden.