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Thinking of entering a model contest....any advice?

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 3:14 PM
Thanks for putting that thread onto p.1, some very interesting points of view there. I feel that I have a better understanding of it now.
I guess I will go and enter a model, leave it on the table and see who wins later. if no one laughs at mine I'll be happy enough.

Darren.
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:22 AM

We had a good discussion of this topic a while back, in a thread titled "When is it time to enter a contest?"  I've taken the liberty of moving that thread to p. 1 of the Forum; it should appear just below this thread.

My own opinion, on the basis of 49 years of model building (and having made an insufferable fool of myself in more than one such event), is that model competitions do at least as much damage to the hobby as they do good, and I don't take part in them any more.  I'm a big believer in non-competitive exhibitions.

That earlier thread suggested that I'm hardly alone in my opinions.  But several people wrote intelligent, thoughtful replies that took different views.  The subject is important; I recommend that whole thread as a good discussion of it. 

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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 10:13 AM
Understand that 1/48 A/C is the heaviest cetegory for a general contest, so the competition is the stiffest. The other guys pretty much nailed it for advice. But let me second the suggestion to volunteer to help with judging. Even if you only go along as an official observer. You will learn more about what judges look for and ultimately how to improve your own skills in that afternoon than in years of reading magazines and postings on-line.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by wibhi2 on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 7:14 AM
Excellant advice from Robert and Matt. the IPMS web site also has a short synopsis on what judges are looking for per the catagory you are entering.
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 4:53 AM
Robert, Matt,

thank you very much for your advice, I have the mind set to go and enjoy myself so I know I'll have a good time. As I have been asked to do the contest, I wanted to make a good effort so thats why I wanted to know what judges look for.
Thanks for taking the time to point me in the right direction.

Regards,

Darren.
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by matthew9 on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:29 PM
Foster7155 nailed down everything I know about contests. I enter IPMS and AMPS contests regularly. The main thing as mentioned is to enjoy yourself. I always enjoy meeting the other modelers and seeing what they have been building. The above advice will help you weather it's your 1st contest or 20th contest. Basics 1st and foremost, seams, sanding marks, etc are what I pay the closest attention to. A simple over site has gotten me more than anything else. Take a look at the winners and it will give you an idea of what judges are after. Don't worry about placing and enjoy the atmosphere. Good luck!
Matt
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Posted by Foster7155 on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 7:34 PM

Darren,

My first advice would be, go to the contest not expecting to win, but to have a good time. Meet other modelers, admire other builds, and look for deals in the vendor area. However, completely forget about the model(s) you've entered. You'll have a much better time.

I realize that most people really can't do what I've suggested and will wonder about their models and worry about what they can do better to earn an award. Notice that I don't say win, but earn. While many modelers see contests as events where someone "runs to the front", in reality, just the opposite is true. Modelers fall to the rear.

As a Contest Director and Head Judge, I've had ample opporunity to evaluate what it takes to get noticed. The first thing to remember is that for the most part, you DON'T want your model noticed right off the bat. Usually, a model gets noticed by judges because of something glaringly wrong...not because it is unusually great. There are exceptions, but this is often the case.

The bottom line is that judges are looking for errors and not for things done right. Cuts are made in each category based on problems the judges find...silvering decals, seams showing, alignment issues, poor finishes, glue marks...the list is endless. For your model to make it past the "first cut" you need to ensure that all these obvious problems are eliminated.

Once judges have eliminated all the models with problems, they will start looking at models side-by-side (in a 1-2-3 contest). Now is the time you WANT your model noticed. Judges will look at things like relative difficulty, exceptional use of aftermarket parts (PE, etc), unusual or exceptionally well done finishes, flawless scratch-built parts, attention to detail...again the list is quite long. However, these are the types of things that will earn your model the respect of the judges.

I'll repeat at this point that the bottom line for every modeler should be to enter a contest to have fun and not ask themselves "what if" questions for the next month.

Enter a contest and if possible, volunteer to be a judge. IMHO judging models impartially is one of the best things a modeler can do to improve their own ability to build for contests. And of course - have FUN!

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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Thinking of entering a model contest....any advice?
Posted by TANGO 1 on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:27 PM
Hi Everyone,

Its one of those things I ponder about every now and then, however, I have now been invited to enter a competition which has made me think "why not?" I'd like to see what others think of the models I build.

The thing is I'm no competition builder and I'm not particually bothered about winning, what has got me curious is what should I build? How can I make it stand out in the crowd? etc, etc.....I build 1/48 scale aircraft mostly, usually with added PE, AM decals and I wondered what are competition judges looking for?

So I'll throw this out there, if any of you good folks have done competitions before or if you are a judge I'd love to hear your thoughts. What advice would you give to someone about entering a model for a contest?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Darren.
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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