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How do you do research?
Posted by roadkill_275 on Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:23 AM
I was wondering about the different ways to research a subject. I will first go through my collection of books to see if I have anything pertinent, then when I get to work on Saturday, I will do an internet search for the subject saving whatever I find onto a floppy disc (or several, as the case maybe). At the moment I have close to 20,000 floppy discs full of pictures and written articles on a wide variety of subjects. Also, how much time do you spend on research? with me it's usually 6 to 9 months or until I exhaust all possible leads on a subject. At the moment I'm researching the Texas Air National Guard. I'm wanting to do a model of each of the types flown by them since they got started in 1917. I have been doing this search for almost one year now. I may not get a lot of kits done in a year, but I have a lot of fun researching them!
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:33 PM
Well Kevin, there's many ways of researching... Depends on a variety of things. I research alot on Family history, which lead me to a relative KIA in Nam so, I found myself insterested in his career, squadrons, the a/c he'd flown,etc. over the last 12 yrs. I've learned alot thru the US mail by contacting the Naval Academy, Personnel Records Center, Historical Center, even the Author of an a/c book which led to some interesting contacts. Then of course, the internet has really helped in my own quest (thru military.com, and other military type message boards/sites) I've narrowed down the Modex Number of my uncle's last ride (RA-5C 149312 AC 90x) to 901 or 904 thanks to the plane captain...
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Posted by jhande on Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:46 PM
My 1st search for info is my reference material also. If I still need more info or didn't find what I needed, my 2nd course of action would be to contact the source of the subject. In your case, I would try contacting the "Texas Air National Guard". Someone there might be able to help you in your quest. Another source of info can come from your local library. Ask them if they can get any books dealing with the Texas Air National Guard or some form of historical reference material that might include them.

I usually save the internet as a last resort. I then do a search on the subject matter and sometimes look for forums that deal with the subject.

Good luck researching... Wink [;)]

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:34 PM
I too hit my references 1st off but then if I can't find it, I go to the library as well as send off letters requesting specific info from whereever. A couple yrs. ago while doing research for my B-17G build, I contacted several air museums that had  B-17s in their collection. March field was the only one which responded. THey gave me a pretty good rundown & from that I was invited to drop in for a visit sometime with the intention of getting my hands dirty. Man, that was a great experience crawling in & out of that B-17 & helping remove the nose glassBig Smile [:D]
  I noticed that many people do research before building & it's good to see  threads like this...

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Posted by roadkill_275 on Sunday, March 26, 2006 3:58 PM
As far as libraries go, I have more and better books dealing with the subject than they will ever own, at least not until I die. At the moment I have at least 7500 to 10,000 aviation related books and magazines. I have found that when you request info from a military unit, 9 times out of 10 you'll get a standard PR packet. I have had better success contacting historians connected to the subject I'm researching. This is one of the few times that am researching individual units, the last one being the 45th Infantry Division out of Oklahoma (yes, they operated aircraft too). What I was curious about was a) Is there a particular order you research in? b) How much time you spend doing so and c) If you even do research and trust the model manufacturers information and decals (I have found problems with decals that most people wouldn't notice).
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:00 PM
Kevin, I see now what you're asking... In my research, I started with info I already knew (unit, aircraft type,etc) from there I wanted to learn more about the squadron so, I contacted the Naval Historical Center & other US Navy sources.
 It all depends on how much you want to learn. I hadn't thought about the problems with decals but, I never really noticed that before.Shock [:O] Now I'll be looking at them differently Banged Head [banghead]

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Posted by fightnjoe on Monday, March 27, 2006 10:40 AM

with modern tech i simply go on the net.  but normally if the build is something i have a book for i will spend time reading then the net.  now the exception is pearl.  when i did research for pearl i went to the library and got a list of addy's for government depts.  i sent letters, recieved letters with more addy's and sent more letters.  fifteen years of research and letter writing.  best one is a letter i got from a shipyard with a note attached.  it said "dont know what this guy is after but go scrape some chips of paint so we can send it to him."  got a lunch bag full of paint scraping.

 

 

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Posted by Foster7155 on Monday, March 27, 2006 11:05 AM

My research methods are relatively simple, but are highly dependent on what type of build I'm working on. I only build WWII armor (for the most part) and my builds will vary from a specific vehicle from a specific unit on a spectific date to a generic vehicle from an unknown unit on a general date. The research required for each type of build is obviously quite different. In general, I don't know what vehicle I'll model before I decide to build the kit. One day I'll say to myself, "I want to build a Sherman" and then decide which variant and which kit to build. Only once the kit is selected will I start looking for specific vehicles/units/time frames.

Research usually involves looking through my own reference material first - both books and saved photos from online sources. Depending on the build, I'll then do varying degrees of online research. Generally, this is more than adequate to get the information I want on the build. If, for some reason, I can't find sufficient information on a subject to do a build from these sources, I'll change the subject rather than beat myself up looking for information.

For me, limiting myself to a specific subject before I even think about a kit feels too much like "contract work" and can take away from the fun in the hobby. I know many modelers who love to pick a subject first, check out appropriate kits, look for (or develop their own) decals, do a ton of research, then start the build - trying to replicate this one subject perfectly. This is their way of building models, but it's not the way I prefer to work. To each, their own...

Good luck on your TANG project. It sounds like a great series of builds.

Robert Foster

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, March 27, 2006 1:59 PM
I start off with my somewhat sparse references on the bookcase, moving along to my bookmarked favorites on the web and usually always ask an important question within the forums. Someone can generally have an answer in no time.

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Monday, March 27, 2006 9:13 PM
 tigerman wrote:
I start off with my somewhat sparse references on the bookcase, moving along to my bookmarked favorites on the web and usually always ask an important question within the forums. Someone can generally have an answer in no time.


These forums are a great source of info as wellBig Smile [:D] My family history research led me back to modelingBlush [:I] Having learned of a Naval Aviator who was KIA in Vietnam in the RA-5C. This discovery led me to find out what squadrons he was with & the a/c he had flown during his career. I've been in contact with several people who had served with my uncle & the research continuesBig Smile [:D]
  I have books on the Vigilante & have searched the net for info on his  a/c (BuNo:149312 AC 90x) but, cannot find anything from his squadron (RVAH-9) only RVAH-5 from the 64/65 tour aboard the USS Ranger.Black Eye [B)]
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Posted by DURR on Monday, March 27, 2006 10:25 PM
i check what i have saved on my computer,then the few books i have,then the net, then last but not least all you guys out here
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Posted by bilbirk on Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:16 PM

I don't because then it would seem like work and I just want to have some fun and enjoy the model. Now if I was building a kit for someone then I might but overall most people do not know the difference and generally look upon them as toys anyway.

I don't mean to offend anyone here because we all look at it differently here and some have served on the subject vehicle

 

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