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Prime or Not to Prime ?

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Prime or Not to Prime ?
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:01 PM
I have done military models for years,now out of the blue,I have the urge to build a cilivan car.A 56 Chevrolet Del-Ray.The whole kit is in white plastic,would I be better off to prime this kit?I don't think Ive ever done a kit,that came out of the box,white.So,what works best?Confused [%-)]
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Posted by DrewH on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:46 PM

I think it depends on what color you want to paint it, and what type of paint that you prefer to use. If I were to paint a car black with model master enamel, I would prime white plastic a dark gray as to keep a deep shade underneath the paint. This would serve as a back up color if I didn't get as great of coverage or I polished a bit much, in one spot. Then the whole job would not be ruined. Now if it was a bright red!, I might not prime but I would think about a third or fourth coat to keep an even depth of color after polishing. Now that is what I would do given those colors, but you may need to think more about color, brightness and depth when you decide this step. good luck, hope I helped a bit and not give you too many more questionsConfused [%-)]

Happy modeling

Drew

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Posted by jhande on Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:59 PM
Well there's a few ways to look at priming.

It helps in surface preparation for the final color coats in a few ways.

  1. A primer coat can help fill any small voids (dimples) that are too shallow for spot putty.
  2. Lighty wet sand the primer coat with 220 - 800 grit to give the final coat something to grab onto and level  the above voids.
  3. A primer paint compatible with plastic can seal the plastic against a final paint that might otherwise have an adverse effect with the plastic.
  4. Primer can also help with 'shading' of the final color coat.

  • Light colored final colors would do best with a light colored primer (white or light grey).
  • Dark colored final colors will work with any, but a darker primer would be best (grey or ruddy brown).
  • Translucent final colors work best with a gold or silver primer coat, gold for a darker hue, silver for a lighter finish.
Or you can just lightly wet sand the plastic, wipe down with Isopropyl Alcohol and spray a few coats of dark colored paint on it.

Hope that helps some.

My 2 cents [2c] 

-- Jim --
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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:14 PM

From my limited experience, I prime for metallic paints, especially on light moldings such as white. Haven't had that problem with armor for none of them are metallic or molded say in white.

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Posted by ckfredrickson on Saturday, April 15, 2006 8:46 PM
To add one more point to jhande's list, certain fillers take paint differently than plastics, making it fairly obvious where alterations were made.  I've gotten into the habit of priming to seal those areas so that the final paint job looks consistent across the entire model.
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Posted by zokissima on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:59 PM
I tend to not prime, but I have noticed that if I don't, I'll have to add several layers to get the correct tone at the end. Basecoat colour will most definitely alter the shade of the final coat.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:43 PM

Hey Guy's

                    Ya'll have got good points on priming. I'll take everything here and try to put it to good use. I have learned a lot. So,my thanks to all of you. Sorry I took so long to get back,been under the weather for awhile.

                                                                                                                                                    Tango - Yankee,

                                                                                                                                                                  papa

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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Monday, April 24, 2006 11:14 AM

My issues with not priming are two:

1) If I don't, it seems like I always miss some bump or dip or other flaw in the surface, which I then have to fix and paint over again anyway. Nothing seems to scream "fix this!" like a coat of light gray primer.

2) While superglue generally takes paint without that part of the model looking different or funny under the final finish, different kinds of putty and filler can give you uneven results which can range from "Nobody's going to notice this" to "My God, what was he thinking?" 

Bottom line, while priming may be an extra step, I think that most of the time, you end up saving time in the long run.

 

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Posted by RadMax8 on Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:58 PM
I use a lot of acrylics and i find that priming makes the paint less prone to lift. Like the others said it lets you see some mistakes, etc, but it really makes Acrylics stick.
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