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The wife and modeling
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 16, 2006 11:37 AM

Or should I title this the equalizer?

Sitting on my work bench are my latest build in various stages. The Erlt NCC-1701, Trumpeter Kiev and F-117a. Starting not too long ago in this hobby, I was amazed at the "extra" Tools, paints, etc that "must" be present to do a model. So as you all know, the simple cost of a model went way up. Try this, try that. Many going in to that ever increasing "won't work" box.

Anyhow, Wife finally stopped by the work area and asked what it all was? I didn't reply. I waited axciously for the next question: And it came, How much does all of that cost?

On the side, she loves that I do this as it usually keeps me at home under her "protective glare".

So I said " Not much!"

"But what is all of that?" as she is calculating the debit to her clothing account.

Honey, You love that I am now at home. and, I have something I can get interested in. All that you see before  uhm.. you don't worry about as it is for the same project I have been working on since the begin. Remember?

Of course not as I never gave her any idea on a special "project".

So she takes one last look at the three partially built kits and says "What ever it is it will look wonderful, I know it".  

Boy did my heart feel proud. Not that she thought I was doing something wonderful. No. That I got away with a trick they have been playing on use since Eve. Ya gotta love this hobby sometimes.

 

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Posted by eizzle on Friday, June 16, 2006 10:44 PM
Don't worry, you'll get caught sooner or later, we all do Wink [;)]

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Posted by DrewH on Friday, June 16, 2006 10:52 PM

I only have to live up to two of  wifes rules. first I have to build what she wants me to. Ok, sound a bit off till she sees a pic of a Banff wing mossie and says to get to it! (current project btw). second, and one I try to cover my tracks on, what ever I spend on modeling-she gets to spend on whatever.

Not too bad for the most part.

Drew

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:20 AM
Does anyone else ever feel as though getting model stuff is like a high stakes game of international intrigue where model kits and happiness hang in the balance?  I do OK avoiding trouble.  Even though I run the finances she manages to keep an account of all things coming into my work area or closet.  I do my best to fudge things.  I also have an off-site facility for storing some things so I can always fall back on it. She's coming this way....
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Posted by gulfstreamV on Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:36 AM
 MortarMagnet wrote:
Does anyone else ever feel as though getting model stuff is like a high stakes game of international intrigue where model kits and happiness hang in the balance?  I do OK avoiding trouble.  Even though I run the finances she manages to keep an account of all things coming into my work area or closet.  I do my best to fudge things.  I also have an off-site facility for storing some things so I can always fall back on it. She's coming this way....
It's the power of the "V" and you ...just  can't seem to contol it. If someone has to sneek and hide THIS hobby. I just don't know what to say, other than your unmatched bravado to seek another mans picture... what did you say  hither too and pay no heed... grow a pair DAVID! come on it ain't that bad chief. Unless your building models at the laptop dance bar, Why play the international intrigue game? I just don't get it..........Cool [8D]
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Posted by MortarMagnet on Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:41 AM
Have you ever spent money that you shouldn't?  It's a big hassle.  I was exaggerating for comic effect.  Maybe I should use more smilies.Smile [:)]
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Posted by gulfstreamV on Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:49 AM
 MortarMagnet wrote:
Have you ever spent money that you shouldn't?  It's a big hassle.  I was exaggerating for comic effect.  Maybe I should use more smilies.Smile [:)]
Well there you have it,......Cool [8D]
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Posted by MortarMagnet on Saturday, June 17, 2006 1:25 AM
Here comes something off topic.  Where does the name come from?  Do you fly or is a fav plane?

BTW my wife is pregnant so... it gets loud and weepy.  She's my sweetheart and I don't like it when she's upset.  I'm a softy.  The DAVID VOSS stuff was all in fun, but I admit I got swept up in the excitement of it.  Things did become regrettable.Dunce [D)]

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Posted by gulfstreamV on Saturday, June 17, 2006 1:36 AM
 MortarMagnet wrote:
Here comes something off topic.  Where does the name come from?  Do you fly or is a fav plane?

BTW my wife is pregnant so... it gets loud and weepy.  She's my sweetheart and I don't like it when she's upset.  I'm a softy.  The DAVID VOSS stuff was all in fun, but I admit I got swept up in the excitement of it.  Things did become regrettable.Dunce [D)]

It's OK kid, I'll still fly high cover for ya' any day of the week. You are'nt all bad' no matter what they say about you...............Cool [8D]
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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:15 AM
 MortarMagnet wrote:
Here comes something off topic.  Where does the name come from?  Do you fly or is a fav plane?

BTW my wife is pregnant so... it gets loud and weepy.  She's my sweetheart and I don't like it when she's upset.  I'm a softy.  The DAVID VOSS stuff was all in fun, but I admit I got swept up in the excitement of it.  Things did become regrettable.Dunce [D)]



Congratulations! On the pregnant wife, not the regrettable actions! Though that often means the same thing... Mischief [:-,]

There is one almost unavoidable equation that will now enter your life:

Baby in house = less modeling.

There have been few of us who managed to keep plodding on through the diapers and midnight feedings, I was not one of them, it was almost 20 years before I returned to the fold. I wish you luck with the changes that will now come into your life. There are few things as magical as children!

So long folks!

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Posted by Matthew Usher on Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:22 AM

Great story!

When I started at FSM, Bob Hayden was the editor. Bob was an avid model railroader, and had an AMAZING layout that wound around his basement. Bob was (and is) a real craftsman, and the bulk of the layout was scratchbuilt -- the buildings, the scenery, etc. but even the rolling stock. It was an HO scale, narrow-gauge layout, so none of the stuff was off the shelf. Basically Bob hand-made every piece of it.

When non-modeler would see it for the first time, one of their first questions was inevitably "How much did all this COST?"

Bob's answer was simple: "About $20 a week. For about 20 years..."

Modeling's not the cheapest hobby in the world, but when I figure the "cost versus time spent equation" I always feel like it's a good deal.

Matt

 

 

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Saturday, June 17, 2006 10:45 AM
That has been a concern of mine.  I hope I can still get some time in on the weekends when we will both be home.  I still have plenty of time now so I've been trying to finish what's on my plate, but that is quite a few projects.  Thank you guys.
Brian
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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:13 AM
 Matthew Usher wrote:

Great story!

When I started at FSM, Bob Hayden was the editor. Bob was an avid model railroader, and had an AMAZING layout that wound around his basement. Bob was (and is) a real craftsman, and the bulk of the layout was scratchbuilt -- the buildings, the scenery, etc. but even the rolling stock. It was an HO scale, narrow-gauge layout, so none of the stuff was off the shelf. Basically Bob hand-made every piece of it.

When non-modeler would see it for the first time, one of their first questions was inevitably "How much did all this COST?"

Bob's answer was simple: "About $20 a week. For about 20 years..."

Modeling's not the cheapest hobby in the world, but when I figure the "cost versus time spent equation" I always feel like it's a good deal.

Matt

Let's add up what I've bought since I returned to modeling last year: kits (30 x $25 average), paints (70 x $3 ea.), tools, glues, putties, airbrush, compressor, homemade spraybooth ($500 approximately), toss in a bit more because I tend to under estimate and I'll say $1600. I spend about 20 hours per kit so that works out to $2.67/hr. I build mostly OOB, and I haven't built all the kits yet, but I feel that's pretty indicative of my hobby cost. Compare that to a round of golf every weekend ($70 in these parts) and based on 40 weekends per year when you can actually golf and that's $2800 per year not including meals, drinks, clubs, balls or other equipment.

Railroaders are a different breed altogether. I know a guy who is a railroad NUT. He had already taken over the basement, one bedroom and built an extension onto his home for his layout(s). When he started measuring the living room his wife said "Enough, either the trains go or I go!" I understand he ended up with another 150 feet of track...

So long folks!

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:38 AM
Not only is it a value, but you can truly do it on a whim.  Get home from work, watching TV, finish cutting the grass, the idea hits you and off you go to your corner, next thing you know its time to go to bed.Smile [:)]
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Posted by Matthew Usher on Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:45 AM

My wife does a lot of needlework (cross stitch) so when we bought our current house I made sure the model room had a loveseat in it with plenty of lighting over it. We can work on projects at the same time, in the same room. Occasionally I need to kick her out if I'm going to be doing some airbrushing, but most of the time we're fine working at the same time.

Of course, we had our first child last fall, so the routine is pretty much out the window...

 

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Saturday, June 17, 2006 11:55 AM
We live in a one bedroom appt.  So we are always in the same room... always.Smile [:)]  During the colder months I paint in the bathroom.Sad [:(]  I know... sounds weird.  I turn the fan on, take a deep breath and in I go.  I made a box to keep the overspray down but you know it can't hold it all.  I clean the bathroom afterward so the mop head is OD now.  I have a big cardboard box in the car that I put outside when I paint in the summer... it has to look ridiculous.  If she doesn't have anything to do she gets jealous of the models.  I have a good laugh over it when it happens, but that only gets me in trouble.Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, June 17, 2006 3:44 PM

When I met my wife...she had a friend who asked, "Does he have any habits?" My wife replied "Yeah, he smokes"....."No, I mean like does he play sports, or buy stuff..."

Think of the connotation of the word "habit" in her question. She equates "hobbies" with some type of distracting or harmful fetish. Over the years, I've realized that to her, a "habit" is ANYTHING that distracts attention and/or MONEY from her. She wound up marrying my best friend a couple of years ago. He loves going to concerts, playing guitar, watching boxing with his father and playing video games. Those are his "habits." (And he caught a LOT of grief for them).

I've had my squabbles with the wife over my through the years, but the simple fact remains: It's something I love doing, have been doing since I'm a child, and I'm not giving it up. I've seen friends give up season tickets to their favorite sports team after getting married, flood e-bay with their "toys", or worse...throw them out. Yet whenever I go over their house, I get to see the "good" china in the breakfront, the doll collection, the jewelry...etc.

In a lot, but certainly not all, of the situations it comes down to selfishness.

Coincidentally, my wife accompanied her friend down to her lawyer today. Her friend was filing for divorce.

 

 

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Posted by hkshooter on Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:08 PM

WOW.

Bills, our first child and only one income in the house forced me to sell a whole gun safe full of stuff along with tons of associated equipment. Toss in a marital separation a few months later and enough sitting around doing nothing and I was just short of nuts.

I came back to these forums and began to read. Soon I fell back in love with a hobby that I had abandonded when I met my wife. A tax check and a few trips to the hobby store later and I'm back in force! And I'm not giving it up again. For anybody.

I look at it this way. In a nutshell I gave up tens of thousands of dollars worth of a hobby and investment in the name of responsiblility. I countered with about $1,000 worth of modeling gear and kits. I can do it at home and there is no danger to our boy as long as I keep the chemicals locked up. And I enjoy modeling about as much as I enjoyed my firearms so to me it's a fair trade.

My wife is pretty cool about my hobby as long as the bills are paid which is pretty nice. And if I ever move back in she will hopefully continue to view what I do favorably. But if not that's just to bad. I'm not gonna hide it from her and she don't have to like it. It just has to be ok that I do it.

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Saturday, June 17, 2006 4:13 PM
I think you are right about changing people.  Our hobbies are part of who we are.  My wife was fine with everything until money became more of an issue.  We don't have money to "waste" on hobbies right now.  I was actually the one who imposed this rule.  See, I can't even follow my own rules.Smile [:)]  She's become really clingy since she's become pregnant, inhibiting building thusly, and I understand.  When things settle back down and it's time to start passing this hobby on to our children I'm sure she'll let me do whatever I want.  When I was little I remember building with my dad and it was one of times that I really got to spend time with him that was one on one.  My brother wasn't there, my mom wasn't there the TV was off and the only thing that mattered was building something.  She's very understanding about alot of things, but we need money for other things right now and she's justified in the way she feels.  I just wish it wasn't like that.Smile [:)]  I NEED to get more and more kits, maybe an airbrush, sprue cutters......
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Posted by eizzle on Saturday, June 17, 2006 7:12 PM
 Frank Steffens wrote:

When I met my wife...she had a friend who asked, "Does he have any habits?" My wife replied "Yeah, he smokes"....."No, I mean like does he play sports, or buy stuff..."

Think of the connotation of the word "habit" in her question. She equates "hobbies" with some type of distracting or harmful fetish. Over the years, I've realized that to her, a "habit" is ANYTHING that distracts attention and/or MONEY from her. She wound up marrying my best friend a couple of years ago. He loves going to concerts, playing guitar, watching boxing with his father and playing video games. Those are his "habits." (And he caught a LOT of grief for them).

I've had my squabbles with the wife over my through the years, but the simple fact remains: It's something I love doing, have been doing since I'm a child, and I'm not giving it up. I've seen friends give up season tickets to their favorite sports team after getting married, flood e-bay with their "toys", or worse...throw them out. Yet whenever I go over their house, I get to see the "good" china in the breakfront, the doll collection, the jewelry...etc.

In a lot, but certainly not all, of the situations it comes down to selfishness.

Coincidentally, my wife accompanied her friend down to her lawyer today. Her friend was filing for divorce.

 

 

Ya know, its funny that you mention "toys" in there, cause when my fiance saw my hotwheels and diecast car collection, she started laughing at me cause those were kids toys, but on my birthday, I got 4 new HotWheels and 2 diecast cars. We have the understanding that the hobby doesn't come first, and that I do get 1 room in the house to work on and display my models and toys. I think of the 6 P's, Prior Planning Prevents P**s Poor Performance.

Colin

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Posted by hkshooter on Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:52 PM

I think it's supposed to be seven p's.

Proper previous planning prevents******poor performance.

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Posted by DURR on Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:54 PM

my wife loves them as i make them and admires them when done she even go to the hobby shop for me for aftermarket decals , glue ,and paint ( i call ahead for the proper stuff ) but when  fed-ex or ups shows up at the door she gets  fed-up  (get it )  ha ha ha   anyway that is the only time she gets peed off at me then next day forgets it

of course i do have a stash of about 500 models  i wonder if that has anything to do with it Black Eye [B)]

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Posted by MortarMagnet on Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:01 AM
 DURR wrote:

of course i do have a stash of about 500 models  i wonder if that has anything to do with it Black Eye [B)]



Maybe donate some off those to the Husbands in Need of Kits Foundation.Smile [:)]
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Posted by eizzle on Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:39 AM
 hkshooter wrote:

I think it's supposed to be seven p's.

Proper previous planning prevents******poor performance.

That would work to, the 6 P's came from my appretincship instrutor, so I guess modyfiying it for the wife would work quite well Big Smile [:D]

Did you notice the auto censoring feature to?

Colin

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, June 19, 2006 2:30 AM
 hkshooter wrote:

WOW.

Bills, our first child and only one income in the house forced me to sell a whole gun safe full of stuff along with tons of associated equipment. Toss in a marital separation a few months later and enough sitting around doing nothing and I was just short of nuts.

I came back to these forums and began to read. Soon I fell back in love with a hobby that I had abandonded when I met my wife. A tax check and a few trips to the hobby store later and I'm back in force! And I'm not giving it up again. For anybody.

I look at it this way. In a nutshell I gave up tens of thousands of dollars worth of a hobby and investment in the name of responsiblility. I countered with about $1,000 worth of modeling gear and kits. I can do it at home and there is no danger to our boy as long as I keep the chemicals locked up. And I enjoy modeling about as much as I enjoyed my firearms so to me it's a fair trade.

My wife is pretty cool about my hobby as long as the bills are paid which is pretty nice. And if I ever move back in she will hopefully continue to view what I do favorably. But if not that's just to bad. I'm not gonna hide it from her and she don't have to like it. It just has to be ok that I do it.

Right on brother. Here's hoping all works out for you.

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Posted by Brews on Monday, June 19, 2006 6:08 AM

I was married once. My former wife used to get annoyed at all the kits I had (about 300 at that time) unmade and cluttering up wardrobes etc.

She used to say that the models would be the end of us. However, I found another way out in the end <G>.

My current partner tolerates my models, and has had a go at a few of them herself. She insists that I have enough in my stash now, though.

 

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Posted by peglegrc on Monday, June 19, 2006 6:40 AM
 tigerman wrote:
 hkshooter wrote:

WOW.

 Toss in a marital separation a few months later and enough sitting around doing nothing and I was just short of nuts.

 I came back to these forums and began to read. Soon I fell back in love with a hobby that I had abandonded when I met my wife. A tax check and a few trips to the hobby store later and I'm back in force! And I'm not giving it up again. For anybody. I look at it this way.

 In a nutshell I gave up tens of thousands of dollars worth of a hobby and investment in the name of responsiblility. I countered with about $1,000 worth of modeling gear and kits. I can do it at home and there is no danger to our boy as long as I keep the chemicals locked up. 

 And if I ever move back in she will hopefully continue to view what I do favorably. But if not that's just to bad. I'm not gonna hide it from her and she don't have to like it. It just has to be ok that I do it.

Right on brother. Here's hoping all works out for you.

Did any one catch the wonderful humor in his message to us all:

"Toss in a marital separation a few months later and enough sitting around doing nothing and I was just short of nuts."

 "In a Nut shell I gave up tens of thousands of dollars worth of a hobby and investment in the name of responsiblility."

 "I countered with about $1,000 worth of modeling gear and kits. I can do it at home and there is no danger to our boy as long as I keep the chemicals locked up."

"And if I ever move back in"      "she will hopefully continue to view what I do favorably"

"But if not that's just to bad. I'm not gonna hide it from her and she don't have to like it. It just has to be ok that I do it."

This is why I'm so happy to be a single Guy!.... I can buy anything I want to buy whether its a couple of new kit's, or tool's, or the two more Badger 200SG & 200 NG Airbrushes I bought my self for Fathers Day!!..from www.dixieart.com  I have three kitty's and they never say anything about how much or why?.. I feed them, cuddle them and they love me!...Too bad Wive's cant be like Kittys in a warm affectionate way and not think "Their's is Power over Man!" LOLWink [;)]

 

 

 

 

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Posted by cwalker3 on Saturday, July 8, 2006 1:57 PM

When it comes to my hobbies, my wife is a gem. Over the past 32 years she has watched as I first got into cabinetmaking which of course meant buying a shop full of tools and machinery. Then came the gun collection which also naturally included aquiring more ammo that the local NG unit, gun club memberships, scopes, more tools, etc. And now over the past two years I've thrown modeling into the mix along with the other two. Shelves full of unbuilt kits, paints, airbrush equipment, even more tools, etc.

Through all of this she's never complained. Well, maybe a couple of times but nothing major. She knows I go to work every day, pay the bills, keep up with the work around the house and have time for her. She figures that if all of my family responsibilities are kept up with then what I do with my spare change is up to me. 

Cary

 


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 9, 2006 5:40 PM

Well the way I see it, modelling wives have it good!!

We're home all the time, it's a safe hobby, we can share it with our kids.

Take it easy ladies or we'll take up hang gliding! Smile [:)]

 

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Posted by peglegrc on Sunday, July 9, 2006 5:55 PM

Take it easy ladies or we'll take up hang gliding! Smile [:)] ha,ha...True!!

I think they would like it better if we did take up hang gliding...It would put a smile on their face as they collected the life insurance check and a little voice inside their head would say: I told you so!...Big Smile [:D]

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