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Building models on commission.
Posted by J Pad on Saturday, July 29, 2006 9:14 PM

Hello all!

I was wondering how many of you build plastic models for commission. Whether it is for the film industry (movie work), or for local customers (desk or shelf display models).

I was interested in maybe starting a little 'garage' business myself, and wanted input from modellers who are already doing this sort of thing. What advise can you give, how did you get started, how do you advertise, how do you figure pricing per job, etc..

Is it your primary income? What other pros/cons can you mention about the subject? I think many modellers are wondering the same things I am about this. I have built many autos for friends, but these were gifts and not for money. Maybe it's time I earned some in this fashion!

THX in advance,    Jay

hud
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Posted by hud on Sunday, July 30, 2006 10:25 AM

Jay,

I don't think I can give you any tips on how to get started on something like this but I do have something to share that may give you some hope on selling models. My dad, who's soon to be 79 years old, has been building model cars for several years now, just for fun and to have something to do. He doesn't own an airbrush so everything he paints is by brush or spray can. He buys the cheapest paint he can find, doesn't spend money on aftermarket stuff, etc. Most of his models look,well, like a kid built them. Some are pretty nice but most of them are way off from being first class. But that doesn't bother neither he nor I and that's not the point here. He works a couple of days a week at an antique mall and one day he decided to rent a showcase in hopes of selling some of his models. Knowing what his models looked like made me skeptical of him trying to do this. Boy was I mistaken. Since this past January he has sold over thirty models and has made over a thousand bucks!  He sells them for around thirty bucks apiece and has to pay some percentage for the rental on the showcase. I'm happy for him that he can make some money on these models and I'm totally blown away by the fact that people will actually buy models that are at best "fair" in the building and painting aspect. These are certainly not museum quality models but it doesn't seem to bother anyone looking to buy one. I'm seriously thinking about taking some of my aircraft and put them up for sell in his display. Who knows, I might make a buck or two myself. Maybe you can try and do the same and also advertise "commission builds available". You might drum up some business that way. Anyway, good luck to you. Hope you're able to make a little money on your hobby.

Hud

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Posted by Dubau on Sunday, July 30, 2006 11:05 AM

WTG Dad ! Thumbs Up [tup]

Bud

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Posted by DrewH on Sunday, July 30, 2006 1:28 PM

Hud, Congrats to your dad. WTG.

Jay, I don't build 'professionally', but I have done some kits for a few folk. Mostly veterans that wanted a model of what the flew or were in. I couldn't charge them anything other than the kit cost. Didn't feel right to me. I have had others ask to build something for them, but was beyond my means at the time. You may need to be able to scratch build. Lots. Maybe even complete models. Some may ask for  completely detailed interiors, wiring etc. done. Corrections made to make an accurate replica. Some, just a straight out of the box build. Building to a time restriction can be a downer too. Your 'free time' is eaten up with the "must do" list. As far as cost. It's up to you. It's your time.

If you create a market for yourself building what you like, Good on ya. Hope it works out.

Good luck

Drew

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Sunday, July 30, 2006 9:14 PM
I used to build tanks for friends at work. They would give me a tank kit or some money to buy the kit and I would build it to look like the tank they commanded. I did it for fun, not money, but after a while, it stopped being fun. I don't think I built another Abrams for about 4-5 years after that stint.
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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Monday, July 31, 2006 7:59 AM

There are a few on this forum that build in commission (I think Pixelator and Swanny) but I don't believe that it there primary source of income.

Only a handfull of people really live from modeling but not only from selling the actual models but by writing books, articals, running websites etc. 

You can find more information about prices etc. of commission builds by using the search option (you are not alone in the dream of making models for a living)Wink [;)]

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Posted by jwb on Monday, July 31, 2006 9:06 AM
I'd be kind of afraid of trying to make a living on it, personally.

I say that because 10 years ago I loved designing web pages and making websites and so forth. Now it's my job, and while I enjoy it as a living- I don't touch it when I get home. I no longer enjoy on the deep level that I enjoy modeling. And I used to enjoy web stuff like I now enjoy modeling.

For me, I'd almost be afraid to do it for money.

Jon Bius

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Posted by hud on Monday, July 31, 2006 3:50 PM

I have to agree with you Jon about model making for a living. I doubt I could survive unless I was to work for a company that specialized in that sort of goods. I doubt I'd even be a qualified applicant anyway.  One thing about a hobby, no matter what it may be, is that it's a hobby, not a job. I'd think for me my mindset would change quite a bit if I knew I was turning out models to sell to put food on the table. It would be too much like work and I'm afraid the enjoyment I get from building would soon be gone. There are some people that actually take what is/was a hobby and turn it into full time work. My dad for instance, he was in the antique business for some time and made good money at it and that all started as a hobby. He'd probably still be at it if it weren't for his age. But for me, I just don't think I would want to do that. I have thought about trying to sell a few "dogs" that are cluttering up my shelves and by what I've seen through my dad's attempt to sell "less than museum quality" builds I think a could unload a couple. It's just amazing what people will spend money on.  Ya never know though.Smile [:)] BTW, where is Parkton? I've lived in NC most of my life and have travelled all around this state but I don't recall ever going thru or near it. Just curious.

Hud

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Posted by Dave23 on Monday, July 31, 2006 4:06 PM
 hud wrote:

One thing about a hobby, no matter what it may be, is that it's a hobby, not a job. I'd think for me my mindset would change quite a bit if I knew I was turning out models to sell to put food on the table. It would be too much like work and I'm afraid the enjoyment I get from building would soon be gone.

Talk about hitting the nail square on the head, you just said a mouthfull Hud! I've made that mistake twice in my life - electronics and IT, never again. Quickest way to kill a hobby is to try and make a living at it. At least for me that has been the case.

-dave

-d

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Posted by jwb on Monday, July 31, 2006 8:00 PM
 hud wrote:

BTW, where is Parkton? I've lived in NC most of my life and have travelled all around this state but I don't recall ever going thru or near it. Just curious.

Hud



It's just down the road from Fayetteville. We're actually halfway between Hope Mills and Parkton- Hope Mills just kind of runs into Fayetteville, on Fayetteville's southern border...

Jon Bius

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by jwb on Monday, July 31, 2006 8:01 PM
 Dave23 wrote:

Talk about hitting the nail square on the head, you just said a mouthfull Hud! I've made that mistake twice in my life - electronics and IT, never again. Quickest way to kill a hobby is to try and make a living at it. At least for me that has been the case.

-dave



Sounds like we've hoed similar rows! Now the computer and Internet are just my job.... I get home and no enthusiasm for 'em. A few years ago I breathed 'em!

Jon Bius

AgapeModels.com- Modeling with a Higher purpose

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by J Pad on Tuesday, August 1, 2006 11:25 PM

Thanks to everyone for their input!

I guess I have a few things to consider before making any commitment...

 

If anyone has more thoughts to share, please don't hesitate!

Jay

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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:31 PM
I've done a few, mostly for club commissioned museum displays and most recentlly a Chevelle for my brother-in-law's wedding cake. (Don't ask!) Thet get real tedious real fast when there's a difficulty n the build and you can't put it on the back shelf or launch it to the wall.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by Dubau on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 2:56 PM

 ajlafleche wrote:
I've done a few, mostly for club commissioned museum displays and most recentlly a Chevelle for my brother-in-law's wedding cake. (Don't ask!) Thet get real tedious real fast when there's a difficulty n the build and you can't put it on the back shelf or launch it to the wall.

That's right , you did but it on your brother-in-law's wedding cake. I STILL want to see pics of that.......

Bud

" You've experienced a set back, and without set backs and learning how to fix them you'll never make the leap from kit builder to modeler "
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Posted by ajlafleche on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 3:16 PM
 Dubau wrote:

 ajlafleche wrote:
I've done a few, mostly for club commissioned museum displays and most recentlly a Chevelle for my brother-in-law's wedding cake. (Don't ask!) Thet get real tedious real fast when there's a difficulty n the build and you can't put it on the back shelf or launch it to the wall.

That's right , you did but it on your brother-in-law's wedding cake. I STILL want to see pics of that.......

Bud

Ask and you shall receive.

Picture of the original with the model.

 

Wedding cake

 

 

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by Yann Solo on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 3:24 PM

Personally, I perfer building kits that I'm interested in.  I would not like to build a Dinosaur for someone lets say or medieval figures for example.  I have no interest in those subjects.  I could not see myself making a good job on such models.  If a friend ask me to make a model for him and I like the subject, I'll do it with no hesitation but I doubt that I could do any money with it.  Lets calculate this:  the kit $40, aftermarket stuff $30, paint $10, x-acto blades $2, glue $3, time ???????  

I think if you want to do this you must be aware of prices, time it takes to build, etc... to be able to come up with a realistic price.

If I would do it for a friend, I would only charge for the material and not for the time.  I spent almost 40 hours on my last Tiger I late armor.

No matter where you go ....... there you are.
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Posted by Yann Solo on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 3:35 PM
 ajlafleche wrote:
 Dubau wrote:

 ajlafleche wrote:
I've done a few, mostly for club commissioned museum displays and most recentlly a Chevelle for my brother-in-law's wedding cake. (Don't ask!) Thet get real tedious real fast when there's a difficulty n the build and you can't put it on the back shelf or launch it to the wall.

That's right , you did but it on your brother-in-law's wedding cake. I STILL want to see pics of that.......

Bud

Ask and you shall receive.

Picture of the original with the model.

 

Wedding cake

 

 

Pretty cool, sadly the figures were out of scaleSmile [:)]

No matter where you go ....... there you are.
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Posted by Dubau on Wednesday, August 2, 2006 4:00 PM

ajlafleche, Now that's COOL.

Thanks for the pic.

What did everyone say about it at the Wedding ?

Bud

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Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:41 PM

I don't honestly know...the cake was off to the side and kind of hidden. The tables were banquet style, long and narrow rather than round which didn't encourage a lot of conversation. The hall was also long and narrow, so most people  probably didn't see the cake at all except when they cut it.

My B-I-L liked the car.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Thursday, August 3, 2006 12:55 PM
 ajlafleche wrote:

 

Wedding cake

 




In Jeff Foxworthy voice.......

"If you've ever had a Chevelle wedding cake topper......."

LOL

Cool cake!

Jon Bius

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"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." ~ Jeremiah 29:11

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Posted by Dave23 on Thursday, August 3, 2006 1:02 PM

If I ever get hitched again, I want a rusted out Chevy pickup up on blocks sittin' there all pretty like! Big Smile [:D]

-dave

-d

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Posted by Dubau on Thursday, August 3, 2006 1:07 PM
 jwb wrote:
 ajlafleche wrote:

 

Wedding cake

 




In Jeff Foxworthy voice.......

"If you've ever had a Chevelle wedding cake topper......."

LOL

Cool cake!

LOL

Bud

" You've experienced a set back, and without set backs and learning how to fix them you'll never make the leap from kit builder to modeler "
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Posted by ajlafleche on Thursday, August 3, 2006 2:04 PM



In Jeff Foxworthy voice.......

"If you've ever had a Chevelle wedding cake topper......."

LOL

Cool cake!

You have no idea...The rehersal "dinner" was a cook out in the bride's family's two car garage. The tables were plywood sheets set on saw horses and covered with plastic in a baloon motif reminiscent of a Wonder Bread wrapper. The condiments (for company, remember) were who knows how old 3/4 empty jars of mustard, relish, ketchup and mayo. The drink of choice was Mike's Hard Lemonade. The flower girl went to a small puddle in the driveway and tried to drink it before attempting to play bongos on the steaks waiting for the grill.

The best man gave a toast that sounded like one of the leads from Brokeback Mountain lamenting the loss of the good times he and the groom had had staying at motels while going to the races. The groom wore a black tuxedo and black patent leather shoe with white socks.

Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.

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Posted by archangel571 on Friday, August 4, 2006 12:40 AM
 ajlafleche wrote:

 The groom wore a black tuxedo and black patent leather shoe with white socks.

LOL.  ROFLMAO

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