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What's the worst kit you've ever seen?
Posted by Agamemnon on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 7:11 AM

Remember all those raised panel lines of yesteryear? The plastic that shattered when you tried to cut it or the vinyl tracks that disintegrated if exposed to UV rays? This thread is for all those kits. It's not about bad builds. Even modern kits can be bad builds, what I'm interested in are kits that go beyond that, that simply stop bearing any resemblance to their target vehicles whatsoever, usually because of technology constraints.

I bought from an auction site, for a modelling project, a Russian 1:30 model of a T-34-85. Pictures will follow later, but for now suffice it to say that there are rocks on Mars that look more like a T-34. Not to mention the hideous green plastic it's made of, which has a tendency to chip and splinter. (I bought said kit for the lower hull and track assembly, which will be used in my ongoing sci-fi APC project)

So, anyone got any ghastly kit recollections from down Memory Lane?

Look at these people, these human beings; consider their potential! From the day they arrive on the planet, blinking, step into the sun, there is more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than... no, hold on. Sorry, that's The Lion King. But, the point still stands... leave them alone! -- The Tenth Doctor
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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 8:52 AM

That's a tough one - but I think I'll nominate a kit I bought about forty years ago:  H.M.S. Prince, from UPC.

UPC, as other Olde Phogies will remember, was a company that distributed lots of models made by other firms - mainly Japanese - in the U.S.  I have no idea what the origin of this particular monstrosity was, but I certainly hope that firm is out of business.

The kit was supposed to represent the beautiful English ship-of-the-line from the seventeenth century, and clearly was based (sort of) on a famous contemporary model in the Science Museum, of London.  The model in question is one of the great "Navy Board style" models:  the lower part of the hull is unplanked, leaving the wood frames exposed.

The Japanese originators of the kit apparently started with a pirated, somewhat simplified version of Revell's H.M.S. Victory.  (The Prince was launched in 1670 and the Victory in 1765 - but hey, what the heck.)  The decks, the masts, the yards, and most of the fittings in the kit were slightly muddy-looking copies of the Revell parts.  The hull halves, however, were new.  They were molded in a sort of greenish-bronze-colored plastic (probably somebody's idea of how to represent the extensive gold-leafed carvings on the real ship), and the bottom (for reasons unexplained) was prepainted a glossy, orangeish red.  And molded into the surface of the hull were a series of wide, shallow, vertical grooves, representing (more or less) the spaces between the frames on the old Admiralty model.

The contents of the box were pretty amusing - but the best part of the experience was the box itself.  Some Japanese artist - apparently an entirely competent painter who, alas, had little if any familiarity with western ships or western ship modeling conventions - had painted a picture of the Prince riding at anchor in an English harbor, with flags flying under a blue sky and puffy white clouds, seagulls swooping around, etc.  Truly a lovely and inspiring scene. Unfortunately, though, the poor man apparently had been given only one source of information to work from:  a photo of the old Board Room model.  The unplanked frames stuck up above the surface of the water, with the blue sky showing clearly between them.  How that artist thought a ship built in such a manner could float is beyond me.

A few years later, fortunately, Airfix released an H.M.S. Prince that, even by today's standards, is one of the better plastic sailing ship kits ever.  With the recent sad news about the demise of Airfix, I'd recommend that anybody who encounters an Airfix Prince grab it while the opportunity exists.

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Posted by Thehannaman2 on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 1:04 PM
I have an 1/48 MPM P-63 Kingcobra that scares the hell out of me.  The wing is thick enough in the middle that the trailing edges don't meet.  The fuse halfs don't marry up anywhere.  The engraving is super soft and the plastic has the texture of velvet.  But it came with photoetched parts to make it a Pinball version..... WOO HOO!

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Posted by Agamemnon on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 2:24 PM
Here's an example of the kind of kit I'm talking about, the aforementioned 1/30 tank:


Look at these people, these human beings; consider their potential! From the day they arrive on the planet, blinking, step into the sun, there is more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than... no, hold on. Sorry, that's The Lion King. But, the point still stands... leave them alone! -- The Tenth Doctor
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Posted by Thehannaman2 on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 2:38 PM
Sorry, dude.  All i have is the dreaded red "x."

Justen

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 6:04 PM

the Revell-Monogram 1\48 P-38,kit number 85-5479

i can't say a single good thing about this kit

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Posted by jinithith2 on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 6:40 PM
I would say the revellogram 1/48 vietnam patrol boat (not a pibber) was absolutely horrifing. looks like jigsaw puzzles cut out by a monkey.Shock [:O]
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Posted by Glamdring on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 6:47 PM
 lone wrote:

the Revell-Monogram 1\48 P-38,kit number 85-5479

i can't say a single good thing about this kit

 

Ditto.

I always nominate that kit as one of the most horrific and I still have yet to be proven wrong.  Without an ungodly amount of work to fix this kit, it just doesn't work. 

 

Robert 

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Posted by wooverstone8 on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 7:07 PM

I built the 1/72 P-63 manufacture by Toko. The kit had major fit problems—most of detail had completely disappeared do to enormous sanding required to making the very soft plastic parts fit. There was NOT one single part that didn’t give a major problem during the entire assembly. I believe it’s the same kit issued by MPM, not sure though. The only thing good about the kit was its decals. The decals are best I’ve ever seen that came with a model kit

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Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 7:47 PM

One that I have in the stash and pull out every now and then to have a look and a shudder... 

The VEB Plasticart TU-20 "Bear". Yuck [yuck]

I don't have any photos of  the kit myself, but I found one here 

Ok, so it does bear a passing resemblance to the subject, but look at that nose profile!! Near impossible to correct without some major surgery, and looking at the rest of it, it's not really worth the effort. Overall, it's pretty much just the basic shapes - detail wise, it looks like it's been gone over with a  blowtorch. (Oh, and did I mention, the plastic is THICK?) Dead [xx(]

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Posted by DURR on Tuesday, September 5, 2006 10:37 PM

the worst kit (3 kits) the mpm reppu 1/72 scale 1 /2 tube of filler used

 

the  1/72 scale revell jolly green giant helo twisted fuselage and 1/2 tube filler

trumpeter 1/350 scale qing dao chinese navy destroyer

the rear of the ship is supposed wide open very much like access to an a/c carrier hanger deck but the whole back is 1 big flat pc

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Posted by matthew9 on Wednesday, September 6, 2006 12:01 AM
 Glamdring wrote:
 lone wrote:

the Revell-Monogram 1\48 P-38,kit number 85-5479

i can't say a single good thing about this kit

 

Ditto.

I always nominate that kit as one of the most horrific and I still have yet to be proven wrong.  Without an ungodly amount of work to fix this kit, it just doesn't work. 

 

I agree with the P-38 being pretty bad with the R-M P-61 right down there too.

Matt
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Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, September 6, 2006 9:33 PM
Pick a Starfix kit... any Starfix kit... then look at it and you will relive my horrors as though there were a psychic connection between yourself and I... it's a... memorable experience, looking into one of those boxes... oh the horror, I can't force myself to think about it anymore... I have to go to my AMS meeting now... bye...


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Posted by Borg R3-MC0 on Thursday, September 7, 2006 2:01 AM

I have some old 1/100 heller kits (vatour, mystere and alize) that have extremely ugly raised panel lines and accuracy issues, Zhendefu kits are also bad (beeing illigal copies of Italeri kits).

But the worst kit that I have in my stash is the A-Model I-17, it's one of their earlier efforts and it looks lik a very difficult build, the canopy isn't transparant, all the white plastic pieces are rough with strange grey swirls etc. But I really want this aircraft so I will build it (when I'm up to a challenge)

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Posted by dkmacin on Thursday, September 7, 2006 5:45 AM

The worst I have seen is a Grumman Widgeon by CMK. I think they pulled it out of the mold way too early! It resembles a grey blob of plastic. (Squadron happily replaced it with another kit that resembles a slightly better looking plastic mess.) The small parts are still "one with the main sprue" and impossible to seperate. Glencoe kits are not much better. The WWI ALBATROS DIII is a kit that requires 80 grit,caulk and enough bondo to do a full size caddy.

 

Don

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, September 7, 2006 6:40 AM

Ahh....

If we can include the crude copies of mainstream kits, then...

Does anyone remember the Idea branded copies of Hasegawa (and other brand) kits from the early 80''s, complete down to copying the original box artwork?

Buried deep in my stash there is a (badly) cloned version of the original release Hasegawa F15E. (The one with the FAST packs and a full load of Rockeyes and little else).  I remember grabbing this one because it was about 1/5th the price of the original Hasegawa kit, thinking "how bad could it be?".

The original Hasegawa kit had more than it's fair share of fit issues, so taking an impression from the sprues to create masters for a new mould is just asking for trouble. There are scratch marks on the wing panels which originate from the mould, apparently as a result of poor polishing. (Yes, it does actually look like sanding marks from using too coarse a grit) The canopy suffers from the same, resulting in a semi-opaque frosted glass look.  Major sink marks, to the point where they could be considered short shots and misshapen parts are plentiful. I think a bench grinder and a carton of putty would be necessary to get this one together.

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Posted by m1garand on Thursday, September 7, 2006 7:33 AM

Phil,

I remember building IDEA kits as a young kid growing up in Korea.  Back then their plane kits cost no more than 30 cents to $1 per kit.  Of course, you get what you pay for, but back then, I really didn't care too much because most of those kits ended up being destroyed by fireworks.

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Posted by zipmeister on Thursday, September 7, 2006 5:44 PM
 lone wrote:

the Revell-Monogram 1\48 P-38,kit number 85-5479

i can't say a single good thing about this kit

lone could you please tell me more about this kit. I have it in my stash and I was thinking of building it soon. I love a challenge and from what you say this is it. Could you list the faults for me please so I will have a heads up on it. I also see others have the same opinion so if they too could chime in I would surely appreciate it.

Thanks
Zip

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 7, 2006 6:55 PM
i didn't get very far on it at all to be honest,,,,,,not a single thing fit right or lined up,a ton of build up sanding and putty will be needed,,,,,it's just a kit that is totally not worth the time ,effort,or money
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Posted by Glamdring on Thursday, September 7, 2006 7:36 PM

From my experience, the wings didn't line up and were severely warped.  The engine cowlings had a gap, then again pretty much anywhere 2 parts met was a gap.

 

Don't even think of doing the night fighter version either.  The surgery required screwed the fit up even more....

Robert 

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, September 8, 2006 11:46 PM
Esci's Demag and Trumpeter's M1A2.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by zipmeister on Saturday, September 9, 2006 10:51 AM
 Glamdring wrote:

From my experience, the wings didn't line up and were severely warped.  The engine cowlings had a gap, then again pretty much anywhere 2 parts met was a gap.

 

Don't even think of doing the night fighter version either.  The surgery required screwed the fit up even more....

Thanks for the heads up guys. I will eventually try it but not for a while.

Zip

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Posted by m1garand on Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:28 AM
Trumpeter K1A1 was one of the worst kits I've ever experienced.  Took me very very long time to trim, sand, and then fill up the gaps just to make it look some what like a decent tank. 
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Posted by zipmeister on Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:25 PM

I guess the worst I've ever seen would be the one I'm most proud of. The Revelogram 1/48 P-51 Mustang. Talking about nothing fitting. I have build pics of this thing. I used more putty in this thing than any model I ever built. I started it about 15 years ago and put it away. I just couldn't imagine anything good coming out of this kit

Zip

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