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Kits that scare the hell out of you.
Posted by Agamemnon on Thursday, September 7, 2006 1:50 PM
So far, I've owned the DML Pz IV E "Vorpanzer" for the past three weeks. In that time, I've assembled five bump stops, idlers, sprockets, three spare road wheels and cleaned a handful of suspension parts. Now, no matter what, I can't make myself get anything more done.

Why? Frankly, I'm terrified of the kit. There's just too many tiny things that can go wrong that I feel completely out of my depth. I've packed the entire thing neatly back into its box and closed the box inside a cupboard away from sight. Instead, I'm planning to buy something simpler tomorrow (even though I should finish my three other kits-in-progress) before tackling anything else.

Anyone gotten this degree of panzerfobia before? Is it natural to be overwhelmed by kits that have more parts than one's car?
Look at these people, these human beings; consider their potential! From the day they arrive on the planet, blinking, step into the sun, there is more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than... no, hold on. Sorry, that's The Lion King. But, the point still stands... leave them alone! -- The Tenth Doctor
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Posted by smokinguns3 on Thursday, September 7, 2006 1:59 PM
Yep so bad that i gave my 2 kits i had away armor is not fot the phant of heart, I think if i do any other armor it would have to be 1/16 scale.
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by Agamemnon on Thursday, September 7, 2006 2:06 PM
I actually considered giving it away, but I don't have anyone to give it to, and charity to complete unknowns requires a better man than I.

Maybe I should just do a couple more simple kits before tackling the Panzer. For one thing, I would like one of those Tamiya 1/48 Volkswagens, and kits don't come much simpler than that.
Look at these people, these human beings; consider their potential! From the day they arrive on the planet, blinking, step into the sun, there is more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than... no, hold on. Sorry, that's The Lion King. But, the point still stands... leave them alone! -- The Tenth Doctor
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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, September 7, 2006 2:36 PM
I know what you mean, all the new DML kits I've purchases are a bit overwhelming with all the detail and fiddly bits.  They are not projects to be taken lightly.  Someday I'll build them when my skills get a little better.  It really makes me appreciate how well engineered and buildable the Tamiya kits are. 

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Posted by Agamemnon on Friday, September 8, 2006 12:51 AM

Amen to that. I might have had problems with Tamiya kits in the past, but with them you always know where you stand. Still, the best build I had was with the Trumpeter KV-2, the only mistake I did on that one was not dry-fit the tracks before gluing on the fenders, so now I'm stuck with the vinyl ones because you can't put the plastic ones on afterwards (not enough room).

I'll try and finish more more of the suspension on the PzIV tonight, if it doesn't work out I can always go back and buy something easier.

Look at these people, these human beings; consider their potential! From the day they arrive on the planet, blinking, step into the sun, there is more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than... no, hold on. Sorry, that's The Lion King. But, the point still stands... leave them alone! -- The Tenth Doctor
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Posted by zokissima on Friday, September 8, 2006 9:13 AM
I don't think I have a single model that OOTB will scare me, and I have some with enormous kit part counts, including some new DML kits, and the large locomotives, transporters, and railway mortars from Trumpeter. You just need to take it easy, and glue it together one part at a time. What scares me are the one or two projects that I have in planning. One is a dio that I estimate will take me the better part of 2-3 years, and a couple of others are projects with a boatload of AM parts. Tiny photoetch, resin, and all manner of details that have to be made to fit is what gives me the shivers.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 8, 2006 11:00 AM

After coming back from a 15 year hiatus from the hobby, here's my take...

Just got the DML 1/35 Battle of the Bulge Tiger (Henschel Turret)... 700+ pieces... Magic Tracks my butt...yikes, but doable..

I have an old (late 1980s) 1/72 Bf 109 Hasegawa kit and got an Aires resin cockpit tub and Eduard photoetch set for it...holy trifocals Batman.

In my heyday in high school (1980s) I could build 'em up nice, normally 1/72 scale aircraft and the teeny 1/144 Dragon aircraft kits because they were cheap and I was flipping burgers...

So I guess as I get back into the swing of things...the kits don't scare me nearly as much as the loss of my abilities over the years.

 

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Posted by Agamemnon on Friday, September 8, 2006 1:44 PM

Well, I tried tackling the kit again and actually made progress. I built two complete suspension thingamabobs (they have a full range of motion, even) and started work on the rear hull plate, and idler mounts. Way I see it, it's better to work on the wheels and suspension gradually, to avoid going insane (I did that mistake with my Sturer Emil, and I still have half its wheels sitting on sprues).

Look at these people, these human beings; consider their potential! From the day they arrive on the planet, blinking, step into the sun, there is more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than... no, hold on. Sorry, that's The Lion King. But, the point still stands... leave them alone! -- The Tenth Doctor
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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, September 8, 2006 5:38 PM

When I built my IV-E kit, I definitely had to be in the right frame of mind to work on it...and so there were periods of time where not much progress happened but the end result was worth it IMHO. I normally don't have multiple kits going at the same time, usually work on 1 through to completion and then start the next. Sometimes I'll alternate between a "simple" and a "complex" project but rarely. Since the IV-E ended up loaded on a flatcar being pulled by the Trump BR-52, well, the whole project was "complex" in a way. Laugh [(-D]

I don't have any kits that really scare me, but I do have projects that are planned or "in the works" that will have to wait for just the right time before I tackle them.

Thanks btw for the note on the KV-2 fenders, I'm working on a KV-1 at the moment and was approaching the fenders step. I'll have to test and see if the return rollers are left off if there's enough space still to work with before attaching and painting. Smile [:)]

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Posted by tigerman on Friday, September 8, 2006 11:41 PM
The DML Tiger I Late with it's 1000 plus parts is intimidating to say the least, that is why it's in the stash for a bit. I'm much more content working on my Italeri Marder with it's 150 or so parts.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, September 9, 2006 9:56 AM
Not many kits scare me other than the massive resin kits that are expensive and contain many parts. I do have many large kits that I do not want to build until the Army stops moving me around. Those are relatively expensive, high quality kits that would not survive the constant moves.
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Posted by qmiester on Saturday, September 9, 2006 2:24 PM
It doesn't scare the Hell out of me, but the thought of working on an Italarie M-109 leaves me totally cold.  I started my third one with the idea of super detailing it.  Got copies of all the applicable manuals, spent a full day crawling over, under and through a couple of 109s that happened to be in the OMS shop, taking a 1/2 doz or so rolls of pics in the process and started on the kit.  9 months and a lot of scratchbuilding later, I had reached the stage where I didn't even want to look at it.  It's about 1/2 done and I just put every thing in a large box and put it on a shelf where it's sat for several years now.  Maybe when I learn that "enough is enough" I might finish it.
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Sunday, September 10, 2006 8:06 AM
I have a Academy Su-27 Flanker that scares me-its a big kit and with work turns out really well, its just that I have always wanted to do the "best" job I can on it, so every year it sits at the bottom of the pile being ignored. Someday I will get around to building it.......
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Posted by DURR on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:50 PM

my take on this is ....

if i buy "older technology" armor ie: italeri tamiya at lhs for say 12-20 range if i goof it a bit well......

but buying the dml and new tamiya etc @ 30-50 each i can't afford the luxury of goofing it up

 only because i know i am not that good of a builder 

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Posted by mass tactical on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:22 PM
Looks like many of us have had experiences with "parts heavy" kits. My best advice is to approach one of these endless parts kit sort of like eating an elephant (one bite at a time). If you can, break the kit down into subassemblies and think of each one as sort of a mini kit. As you finish each one you will feel a sense of accomplishment which will motivate you to keep going until final assembly. If things get too overwhelming, take a break and work on something really simple for a diversion. Remember, our hobby is supposed to be fun and not a stress inducer like work.

Mike
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Posted by Yann Solo on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:29 PM

Unlike many of you, the more parts it has, the more fun I'll have.  Cause what I enjoy the most about modeling is the construction part.  I've built the Dragon's Tiger I late with its 1000 plus parts and I just loved the build.  It takes a while to get done but it is so rewarding with it is completed.

If you're overwelmed by the nuber of parts, it probably means that the construction part of the hobby is not your favorite.

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Posted by stipp on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:49 PM

 Rob Gronovius wrote:
Not many kits scare me other than the massive resin kits that are expensive and contain many parts. I do have many large kits that I do not want to build until the Army stops moving me around. Those are relatively expensive, high quality kits that would not survive the constant moves.

Hey Rob, i know how you feel about the large resin kits! Im  trying to build the Cooper rebel blockade runner from star wars a new hope, and i find that all of the resin is fragile and a lot of pin holes and globs and a lot of detail is lost etc..., you just feel like givingup!

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Posted by eizzle on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:00 PM
Well, I am more an aircraft modeler, but its just about the same with the phobia. I have a couple 1/32 Hornets from Academy, they have over 900 pieces, they don't scare me, the one that scares me is the Hasegawa 1/48 Tomcat! The fit is so-so, and it has tons of tiny parts that don't fit all that great, and well, its just way over-enginered,IMHO. I think we all have some kits that scare us, some just for diffrent reasons than others.

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Posted by peglegrc on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:49 PM

 Me too.....Ive got some Armor Kits with 800+ pieces, and bought the aftermarket kit's for them with from 175 to 300+ More Pieces!....I love these models, and once a month I bring one or two of them down off the top of the shelf of my work bench, open both model & aftermarket box's or packet's Ive placed inside the model's box and take each tree out and just look and admire all the wonderful pieces.... I'm in here for about two hours, just looking at the instructions, reading, matching the part's #'s on each tree to the instruction book of 20 or more pages, Looking at the decal's, rolling the real rubber tires in my fingers, or fitting the plastic tires/wheels together,Wishing they were real rubber too! With what it Cost they should be Real Rubber! Ha,ha.... Then I put everything back in its box and back up on the shelf...

 I figure when I'm a little Older I'll give them a try!......I'll be 67 this Friday the 15th of Sept...I'm just to Young to be working on those complicated models yet!!.........Take a look to the left, that's my work bench.. Their stacked up to the overhead work light!   ha,ha...

                                                                    "RC"

PeglegRC "The Meaning of life??? How the Heck should I know? Try Google." "Can You Expand your report about Employee Morale?..I'm Afraid 'Bite Me' doesn't Quite cover it"... "Please excuse any misspelled word's!
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Posted by eizzle on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:55 PM
Well, happy soon to be birthday Pegleg! Mine is on Saturday, the 16th. Got any special plans?

Colin

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Posted by peglegrc on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:55 PM

Hi..Happy Birthday to you too....I think I'm going to take me out to dinner, have a Steak...And a Drink! I'm tired of cooking for me... ha,ha....Ive bought myself 11 new Armor models, The last one being the Dragon Wagon, also the Wrecker, the tank recovery vehicle, two Artillery tractors, three Vulcan PC's, the M-548 Gun Truck...The M-977 and M978 Oshkosh HEMTT...and last but not least the MAN 10t. mlgl 8X8 German truck with crane!... Its Good to be single! ha,ha.....Ive got enough to work on now or just look at the pieces... ha,ha...Its fun either way! 

 What are you plaining to do for your B-Day

"RC"?

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Posted by gulfstreamV on Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:34 AM
I'd have to say no, nothing would scare me so to speak. But what I find with a really good kit is doing it justice. Meaning the right paint colors. That's what tweeks me. I want it "real right" which leaves me with alot of WIP's until further review/research. Sometimes I think  just build it stupid and get it right the next time. Like alot say, this is a hobby, have fun.
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Posted by Agamemnon on Thursday, September 14, 2006 5:53 AM

I think the "doing justice" part is a significant portion of it, too, as is being something of a miser and possessing a penchant for personal finance planning. I don't want to "ruin" any kits by too much fumble-fingered snorfing.

To that end, I'm going to go and buy something "easy" to practice some more with today, maybe a Tamiya 1:48 Tiger.

Look at these people, these human beings; consider their potential! From the day they arrive on the planet, blinking, step into the sun, there is more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than... no, hold on. Sorry, that's The Lion King. But, the point still stands... leave them alone! -- The Tenth Doctor
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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:03 AM
For me, Trumpeter kits kinda give me the chills when I start one.  They got great subjects and detail, but some of the fit and engineering of the moldings is enough to drive me a little batty.




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Posted by Duke Maddog on Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:29 AM
There are only two kits that have scared the hell out of me. One: Tamiya's 1/350 scale USS Enterprise which I'm building for a friend. Makes me go cold all over, especially when I think about how I'm going to get the hull put together and then sand it smooth to hide the seems.

This is the other one:



This one scares me because of all the detailing I'll need to do between assembly steps. The building doesn't bother me, after all how hard is it to glue part 23 to part 27? LOL!


I have already started both of these kits, mostly because I have always wanted this Christie, and I can't let down my friend on the USS Enterprise. I can't say I'm becoming more comfortable, but I can say that I am enjoying the challenge. Seeing progress on something that scares me helps me to conquer the fear as well!
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Posted by Agamemnon on Thursday, September 14, 2006 10:47 AM
 scottrc wrote:
For me, Trumpeter kits kinda give me the chills when I start one.  They got great subjects and detail, but some of the fit and engineering of the moldings is enough to drive me a little batty.


Hm, I had zero problems with the KV-2 that weren't related to my own mistakes. Zero misfits, little flash, all in all an enjoyable build.
Look at these people, these human beings; consider their potential! From the day they arrive on the planet, blinking, step into the sun, there is more to see than can ever be seen, more to do than... no, hold on. Sorry, that's The Lion King. But, the point still stands... leave them alone! -- The Tenth Doctor
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Posted by peglegrc on Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:16 PM
 Agamemnon wrote:

I think the "doing justice" part is a significant portion of it, too, as is being something of a miser and possessing a penchant for personal finance planning. I don't want to "ruin" any kits by too much fumble-fingered snorfing.

"don't want to "ruin" any kits by too much fumble-fingered snorfing.

What a Great Word:....fumble-fingered & "Snorfing"... Me too!....I don't want to do That Either! I guess thats the reason I just like to Look at some of my Bigger Intimidating Kit's and enjoy the model as it is in the Box!....

                                                          "RC"

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Posted by eizzle on Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:04 PM
 peglegrc wrote:

Hi..Happy Birthday to you too....I think I'm going to take me out to dinner, have a Steak...And a Drink! I'm tired of cooking for me... ha,ha....Ive bought myself 11 new Armor models, The last one being the Dragon Wagon, also the Wrecker, the tank recovery vehicle, two Artillery tractors, three Vulcan PC's, the M-548 Gun Truck...The M-977 and M978 Oshkosh HEMTT...and last but not least the MAN 10t. mlgl 8X8 German truck with crane!... Its Good to be single! ha,ha.....Ive got enough to work on now or just look at the pieces... ha,ha...Its fun either way! 

 What are you plaining to do for your B-Day

"RC"?

Well, I can't say much for being single, but it is good to have a fiance that doesn't get on me to much about my hobbiesBig Smile [:D]

I am taking the little lady, mom, dad, and daughter to the airshow over here. They are supposed to have a few military jets, and a lot of older ones. I've been once, it was pretty neat. I was quite happy they were having it on my B'day, that, and it won't be 90 some degrees outsideWink [;)] I think I might have to go for a steak dinner to, that sounds mighty tasty, thanks for the idea Pegleg!

Colin

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Posted by peglegrc on Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:18 PM

("Well, I can't say much for being single,")  Ha,ha.. Thats because your a young Man Still..I see your from Indiana, you ever hear of Louie Meyer? He was the first 3 time winner of the Indie 500?...Louie sold his half of Meyer & Drake to I think I remember his partner's name was Dale, Dale Drake and moved to Indie to build the ford racing engines and parts for the Indie  Race Cars...He & Drake owned & built the Offenhouser racing engines here in So. Calif before Ford started winning the 500 all the time lol...His youngest Daughter Melaine "K" was my Wife for 5 years...Back in the early 60's.. August 18th 1961 we were married.....She was 16... I was 21.... And really stupid to have lost her......Sad I've missed her all these years.....But was married 5 more times after her....I never did get over her....I've gotten use to coming & going and enjoy being alone now that I'm a Old guy, but wish I could see and talk to her again...Sign - Off Topic!! [#offtopic] I know, I know, Off topic.... "Just remembering out loud" ha,ha.....Have a fun day Saturday, enjoy your Day!!

                                                                               'RC"

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:19 PM
I have the 1/350 scale Tirpitz and New Jersey on my table right now, fussing over the hull paint. I've botched the line between the waterline, the hull color and the ship's color. Think I'll have to try to use some thinner and wipe the drips where the paint seeped under the tape.I've been out of the hobby for about 20 years, and my painting skillls are not where I would like them to be.
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