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Have to vent
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 10:30 AM
Hey Gang,

Seeing as how I have scoured the available resources searching for a customer service email address for AMT/ERTL and come up empty handed, I figured no one would mind if I blew off some steam here.
Since I was a little boy, about 10 or so, I have wanted to own a 67 GTO. I figured I would build a model of the classic muscle car as my own keepsake and began searching for a kit. Of course 20 years ago, and right up until last month, nobody made the kit for a 67. I have built the 64,66,69 from Revell and the 65 from AMT. While wondering around the Hobby Lobby I was over joyed to discover that AMT released the 67 in both stock and Triple X (from the movie) versions of the car. Without hesitation I swiped up the stock version and ran home like a little school boy and shared my excitment with my wife.
That excitment soon turned to frustration. Having built a couple AMT kits in the past and suffering problems with the build sheet clarity, parts missing, wrong parts, poor moldings, etc., I was prepared for whatever was inside my now coveted box of parts.
I am 5% into the build and have come across more problems than I have with any AMT kit I have ever built. First, there are parts in the box that are clearly not Pontiac GTO. On the sprue containing the inner wheel assy and dash board, There is a front clip of a mid 60's Chevy. There are about 20 parts on the sprue trees that have no referance in the build sheet. Included are two hoods for either building the stock engine or the blown/injected engine. I built the blown/injected engine and test fit the body, chassis, engine and the respectful hood. Doesn't fit. The hood supposed to be used with the bigger engine sits almost 1/4" off the body because of the blower. I had to use the stock hood and carve out the RAM Air intake scoop to accomodate the blower hieght.
Every single part has to be trimmed because of the poor mold and some parts are horribly disfigured. Sprue trees are bent out of shape and the part numbers are hard to read. The transmission assy does not line up right with the engine block forcing a lot of sanding and shaping.
The bigger engine option does not fit in the chassis right either. The drive belts for the blower do not have clearance to fit the chassis without trimming 1/8" off the chassis so the belt fits right. I have not even got to the radiator assy and will no doubt be in trouble with clearances there too.
I respect those of you out there who build AMT kits, but I have never had a pleasant experience. The worst thing about this is my keepsake that I have been after for 20 years.......isn't all that exciting any more.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 10:47 AM
I can sympathize, and appreciate your trials and tribulations.

I a mcurrently working on a kit for my father, the Revell '48 Ford Deluxe Convertible. I had some experience with the kits as a kid, but nothing could have prepared me for the nightmare I now face. Mold lines are everywhere, actual molding plates misaligned, flash on every part, bad fit, gaps, you name it. This has been a real labor of love, not for the kit, but for my father. If I had my druthers, I'd have thrown the kit out the windowafter the first 10 minutes. I've never filled and puttied so much in my life. Extremely exasperating, to say the least. I now now of a certain manufacturer who will get no more business from me.

demono69
  • Member since
    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 10:58 AM
wow, I was wanting to try and build a few cars just for the experiance. Thanks to you guys I now know to stay away from the AMTs , especially since I havent built any cars. Now I know what not to get in order to make my first car experiance an enjoyable one. thanks, tim
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 11:17 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by demono69

I can sympathize, and appreciate your trials and tribulations.

I am currently working on a kit for my father, the Revell '48 Ford Deluxe Convertible.


Are you sure it's Revell? I have built close to 60 or so Revell kits and never had a problem. What you describe sounds more like an AMT kit. If it is a Revell kit, it has got to be a fluke.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 19, 2003 12:24 PM
I'm positive it's the Revell, kit 85-2163. It may not be as bad as some are used to, especially in the auto community or if you are used to those types of kits, but compared to what I normally build (i.e. Hasegawa, Trumpeter, Academy, Tamiya, etc.) It is an awful kit. Just my opinion.

demono69
  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: Minneapolis, MN
Posted by rossjr on Friday, September 19, 2003 1:26 PM
Here is some information:
http://www.ertltoys.com/brand/company_info/contact_us.shtml

The rest you might have to work harder for, they are located in Dyersville, IA and will go under the name of Ertl or Racing Champions. My expereince in the past with them has been kits in production they will send parts, out of production kits they will tell you to return the kit to the location you purchased it.

GOOD LUCK!
  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Central MI
Posted by therriman on Friday, September 19, 2003 5:55 PM
I feel your fustration. I was just finishing up a Revell Davey Allison rookie year car (Davey was my #2 favorite driver b4 his death) this sunday. All I had to do was decal it & put the window in and body on. Anyways, as I started to decal they promptly came apart in water. I put some microscale decal film on the rest to try to save them, but it didn't help. Now I have to contact R/M and get another shett and hope it doesn't happen again.
Tim H. "If your alone and you meet a Zero, run like hell. Your outnumbered" Capt Joe Foss, Guadalcanal 1942 Real Trucks have 18 wheels. Anything less is just a Toy! I am in shape. Hey, Round is a shape! Reality is a concept not yet proven.
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