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jwb
  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Parkton, NC
Posted by jwb on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 7:58 PM
And here I thought it meant you could only use parts that weren't in the box! Whistling [:-^] Laugh [(-D]

Jon Bius

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:17 PM
 Foster7155 wrote:

If you're asking because you want to enter a model in a contest, the answer is that Out-of-the-Box (OOTB, or OTB for short) rules are established by each event. While they may be the same or extremely similar to other events, they do not have to be the same and many local organizations have their own rules on what is or is not OTB.

This is really what it boils down to and the only place it really matters. If you plan on entering a contest, find out beforehand what the sponsoring group accepts as OOB. You may also be required to provide the instructions to be eligible. My club has dropped this completely since the OOB winner often places in the top three or and the frequency with which there are no OOB entries and another club simply offers a fourth place award.

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  • Member since
    January 2007
Posted by Gigatron on Tuesday, September 25, 2007 12:58 PM

For me, OOB means no extra pre-manufactured parts, like PE or resin. 

BUT, you can use things like masking tape or lead foil to make seatbelts/straps and copper wire or stretched sprue to make aerials.  Something that can be done by even the most inexperienced of modelers.

If it requires serious scratch building skills and removal of half the parts in the kit, you're way out of OOB land.

-Fred

 

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Pensacola, FL
Posted by Foster7155 on Saturday, September 22, 2007 4:19 PM

I think it's somewhat difficult to answer your question with a simple answer without knowing why you're asking. Depending on your reason, the answer can vary dramatically.

If you're asking because you want to enter a model in a contest, the answer is that Out-of-the-Box (OOTB, or OTB for short) rules are established by each event. While they may be the same or extremely similar to other events, they do not have to be the same and many local organizations have their own rules on what is or is not OTB.

Within IPMS/USA, there has been a great deal of discussion regarding the OTB rules (and from the rumors, a major change is coming soon) primarily because you can now buy an armor kit - for example - with photo-etch parts, a metal barrel, and even resin components included in the box. Under the old "spirit of the rule", none of these items would be authorized and still have the model entered as an OTB model. However, because the rule was not substantially changed, these kits have been eligible for OTB awards at the last two IPMS/USA Nationals. As I said above, look for changes in the IPMS/USA OTB rules soon.

If you're asking your question just to know what modelers' mean when they say, "OTB", that's an even harder question to answer. Each modeler has their own personal idea of what does and does not mean OTB. Some modelers think adding monofiliment antenna or rigging to aircraft (as long as it's shown on the box art) is perfectly acceptable while others do not. Most consider tape seatbelts in cars and aircraft as allowed under OTB rules...a few do not. The number of differences like these could fill several pages.

In general, as stated above, the "spirit" of the meaning for OTB is that nothing other than the parts which came with the kit are used and only your own modeling skills to thin parts to scale, clean up all manufacturing defects, properly assemble the kit, and finish the model are used.

I hope this helps...  

Robert Foster

Pensacola Modeleers

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    December 2002
  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, September 22, 2007 2:37 PM
Straight OOB is just paint, glue and filler used. No modification to the basic kit including cutting open doors or hatches. In some contests, decals can be replaced with aftermarket ones.
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    January 2007
Posted by IYAAYAS on Saturday, September 22, 2007 1:50 PM
no extra, add-ons used...like Photo Etched or resign additional stuff!
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Help with terminology
Posted by des_aniper on Saturday, September 22, 2007 1:40 PM

What is the definition of "strait out of the box" mean?

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