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C.A Accelerator ????

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C.A Accelerator ????
Posted by lolok on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:52 PM

 Evening friends.long time since I have been here to post but just thought of something it would be interesting to know.

                          What exactly is the active ingredient of CA Accelerator? It is hard to find here in Warsaw and I usually stock up back in London.It would be helpful to know if I could use something more readily available..

                  Then again,so much stuff is impossible to find here.Lacquer thinner,etc etc.

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Posted by kirk4010 on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:34 PM

I have read several posts where it is suggested the chief (although not only) ingredient is good old H2O.

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Posted by ben1227 on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:00 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Water is the main ingredient. How do I know? I found out the hard way. Get some CA on your fingers and they instantly bond because of the moisture. Since I don't know what else they mix with the water, I'd buy the expensive brand name stuff, not just pour water on it.
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Posted by SprueOne on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:22 PM

I was going to say Human Flesh, but Ben 1227 already clearified that.

water, huh?

I'm going to test this right now.

 

 

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Posted by DHM on Saturday, November 3, 2007 6:24 AM
CA doesn't work by evaporation, It cures because of water vapor in the air.  Save your money and just use water. 
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Posted by ben1227 on Saturday, November 3, 2007 8:41 AM

I still haven't found a need for accelerator though.

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Posted by DHM on Sunday, November 4, 2007 11:10 AM
I only accelerate CA gules when I use them for gap filling. 
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Posted by hkshooter on Saturday, December 1, 2007 8:05 PM

I've tested the water theory in the past. Didn't work. I asked this same question a few months back. Never got a defintive answer back then, don't anticipate one now. So far nobody has come up with a correct answer.

Just because it bonds fingers instantly in no way means it works as well with water.

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Posted by DHM on Sunday, December 2, 2007 5:28 AM

Confused [%-)]It worked for me, but maybe that's because I'm wierd.  It does take a bit longer to work.  I have also heard of using baking soda to accelerate CA glues, but I have yet to try it. 

CA accelerator and human flesh are probably the only definitive answers you will get. 

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Posted by ckfredrickson on Sunday, December 2, 2007 9:02 PM

I've spent the last few minutes looking at the material safety data sheets (MSDSs), and it appears to vary by manufacturer/supplier, but most seem to use toluidine dissolved in either acetone or another hydrocarbon solvent.

Water does accelerate the curing process for cyanoacrylates, but I don't think this is one of those situations where more is better...  In other words, don't apply too much water.

As to trying to pick this stuff up in London, just a warning that CA accelerator isn't supposed to be shipped by air.

By the way, lacquer thinner ought to be available in Poland, assuming there aren't any legal restrictions which limit it's availability since it is a mixture of acetone, xylenes and other chemicals.   Here in the US it's usually found in hardware stores with the other solvents such as paint thinner, acetone, turpentine, etc., but I would also try automotive stores (car paints are usually lacquers).   Some art stores have it too.  As a last resort, you could try asking a shop that repaints cars if they could give or sell you a small amount.  Be forewarned that it can melt polystyrene, which most kits are made out of. 

I can do all I need to do with paint thinner, which is a bit gentler, so that's all I use.

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