1/35 AH-1W Cobra questions

DiscoStu wrote:

I have that update kit from Cobra, haven't used it on my kit yet but I can tell that on the plus side it is beautiful, highly detailed and will add alot to the kit.   Just in dry-fitting the tub I can tell you the fit is perfect, maybe a little sanding here and there but no major effort.  That said you will be doing some surgery to the exterior.  You will need to cutt off the nose just infront of the canopy, you will filing down the Kit's canopy to accommodate the new nose, In addition, you will be removing a rather large area between the two engines and an area on the belly to fit the resin pieces. These parts are imperative if you want to build an accurate W.  I've planned it out and it shouldn't be too difficult.  About the toughest thing I see is getting the guts to start slashing the plastic.

The surgery to add the Cobra Company upgrade isn't that bad.  Sure you need to cut off the nose and cut the canopy but you don't need to add the new area betweenb the engines (the new doghouse fairing with laser warning receivers  isn't needed as it was never incorporated except for on a few aircraft).  Also, there shouldn't be any surgery involved with adding the oil cooler shroud on the belly. 

The AH-1Z is the latest version that is currently being fielded.  It has a 4-blade main and tail rotor, larger wings with more weapons hardpoints, along with a lot of other upgrades.

The AH-1Z does have a four-blade main rotor. It is known as the "Viper" and is fighting alongside the AH-1W SuperCobra.

Here is an article on wikipedia about the AH-1Z: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AH-1Z

Andy - thanks for the clarification.

Just caught the tail end of a show on the military channel about the AH-1...think I heard something they said wrong (I was trying to multitask!). Is there a four-bladed variant of the AH-1? The Z, perhaps? Or were they talking about something else? Or did I completely imagine the whole thing?

Sean, I am PMing on the Angel markings! :)

Andy

dupes wrote:

Wow...that's a lot of upgrades! Andy (or anyone) - does the Cobra Co. NTS resin set include all of this stuff?

-The CC resin upgrade includes the new nose. It's up to the modeler to sand down the front of the windscreen to make the kit canopy fit.
-Cobra Company didn't include a new front sight "bucket." You are supposed to use the kit part, but I am a stickler for detail and know it needs upgrading. I modified the kit part myself.
-The CC set includes a totally up-to-date cockpit tub and instrument panels for the upgrades. Also includes some really nice seats.
-No radio antennas are included, but it would not be hard to manfacture your own or mod the kit parts.
-The oil cooler is included, and so are the AAR-47 antenna housings.

Here is the site and what's included: http://www.cobracompany.com/35009.htm

Andy

Dupes, go ahead and send me your mailing address and when I get a chance I will get both sets of snake sided decals out to you.

Anyone else in need of the sand markings or possibly the markings with the angel on the nose? If so, hit me up with a PM/email and I will get them out to you.

Sean 

HOLLIDAY25 wrote:

Dupes,       Let me double check the sheet, but I believe I was gonna build the one with the gold tooth, I know I was not gonna do the sand color ones or the ones with the snake on the side. Let me know what you would like and I am sure I will be able to hook you up. As for the 2nd sheet I mentioned - you are correct it is the Shark Mouth one, looked quite nice from what I remembered of it. Sean

Hey Sean - I'd definitely be interested in the one with the snake on the side...that would be pretty darn sweet. Let me know if you're game, I'll shoot you my address!

AH1Wsnake wrote:

Here's what comes to mind for a modern, upgraded, NTS Whiskey: -New nose and re-shaped front canopy -New front sight "bucket" with FLIR window added -New front cockpit with MFD video display -Deletion of FM-homing (shark-fin) antennas on engine nacelles -Newly-shaped radio comm. antennas -Addition of the oil-cooler cowl on the belly (not really NTS-related... just an upgrade) -Later, aircraft were upgraded with AAR-47 plume-detector antenna suite ("fish-eyes") -Addition of GPS antenna to the top of the tailrotor gearbox -Deletion of Doppler navigation housing on the belly Those are some of the externals.... some of the other upgrades were electronic. Andy

Wow...that's a lot of upgrades! Andy (or anyone) - does the Cobra Co. NTS resin set include all of this stuff? 

Dupes,

      Let me double check the sheet, but I believe I was gonna build the one with the gold tooth, I know I was not gonna do the sand color ones or the ones with the snake on the side. Let me know what you would like and I am sure I will be able to hook you up. As for the 2nd sheet I mentioned - you are correct it is the Shark Mouth one, looked quite nice from what I remembered of it.

Sean 

acmodeler01 wrote:

I don't think any of the brown/sand are NTS upgraded. I know the ones with the snakes on the sides and the shark mouth with the gold tooth are NTS machines, as is the one with the angel nose art. Beyond that I'm not sure without the sheet in front of me. As a side note, can anyone tell us what all the NTS upgrade includes, what it does, and what the visual differences are? I bet HeavyArty can...hint hint...

Here's what comes to mind for a modern, upgraded, NTS Whiskey:

-New nose and re-shaped front canopy
-New front sight "bucket" with FLIR window added
-New front cockpit with MFD video display
-Deletion of FM-homing (shark-fin) antennas on engine nacelles
-Newly-shaped radio comm. antennas
-Addition of the oil-cooler cowl on the belly (not really NTS-related... just an upgrade)
-Later, aircraft were upgraded with AAR-47 plume-detector antenna suite ("fish-eyes")
-Addition of GPS antenna to the top of the tailrotor gearbox
-Deletion of Doppler navigation housing on the belly

Those are some of the externals.... some of the other upgrades were electronic.

Andy

I don't think any of the brown/sand are NTS upgraded. I know the ones with the snakes on the sides and the shark mouth with the gold tooth are NTS machines, as is the one with the angel nose art. Beyond that I'm not sure without the sheet in front of me.

As a side note, can anyone tell us what all the NTS upgrade includes, what it does, and what the visual differences are? I bet HeavyArty can...hint hint...

Wow...that sheet is INSANE! Beats the pants off of the current release. Wow. I understand your original reply now Gino.

Technical question - how many of the 15 birds on that sheet would be upgraded to NTS standard? Any? All? None?

Anyone know if that sheet is available anywhere? 

Hmmm...I tried linking the page from Twobobs, but they won't let you. The set I was looking at is #35-002/48-116 AH-1W HMLA-169 Shark Mouth Vipers Cobra. I'm assuming that this is "set number 2"?

Sean - I'm not terribly particular as to what markings I'm going to do this bird in...what sort of leftovers will you have? I can't find a pic of set one anywhere online - must have been OOP for quite a while.

Dupes,

    If I am not mistaken, TwoBob's actually came out with two different AH-1W sheets, the one that Gino is talking about and another that had more recent markings on it - that sheet however was in 48th scale, BUT included markings for one 35th scale bird as well. As for the orginal sheet, if you can email/PM me I might be able to help you with a set of markings from that sheet - I have it, but will only be building one bird from it so will have a lot of extras.

 Sean 

Rumor has it that MAW-Decals might upscale their 1/48 "Leatherneck Featherweights" sheet: it has decals for two UH-1N and one AH-1W.

Here's a picture of the 1/48 sheet!

I'm already blue in the face!

No, the Two Bobs sheet is great.  What I meant was it is unfortunate that it is no longer in production.  If you can get your hands on one, it has 6 different helos from ODS until about 2002 in A'stan on it.  Great stuff.  A more current one would be nice too, maybe an updated Two Bobs sheet w/some UH-1N markings as well.

Good luck.

DiscoStu wrote:

About the toughest thing I see is getting the guts to start slashing the plastic.

Yeah, I definitely hear you there. Heh.

Gino - when you say that "unfortunately" the Twobobs set is the only one available, are you saying that you wish there were more sets (with other schemes, maybe?), or that the Twobobs set isn't any good?

I have built the kit OOB.  It goes together well w/no issues.  I have the CC set and Two Bobs decals for my next one.  Unfortunately, they are the only AM decals fro it.

Good luck.

I have that update kit from Cobra, haven't used it on my kit yet but I can tell that on the plus side it is beautiful, highly detailed and will add alot to the kit.   Just in dry-fitting the tub I can tell you the fit is perfect, maybe a little sanding here and there but no major effort.  That said you will be doing some surgery to the exterior.  You will need to cutt off the nose just infront of the canopy, you will filing down the Kit's canopy to accommodate the new nose, In addition, you will be removing a rather large area between the two engines and an area on the belly to fit the resin pieces. These parts are imperative if you want to build an accurate W.  I've planned it out and it shouldn't be too difficult.  About the toughest thing I see is getting the guts to start slashing the plastic.