Black Hawk Engine *~DONE~*

Alex,

  Check this walkaround on Prime Portal.  maybe there is enough there for what you need.  There are a bunch of other Blackhawk walkaround there as well that might help.

     Ray

http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/gino_quintiliani/uh-60a_med_walk.htm

Thanks Ray, certainly a good start. Much Appreciated

Alex,

  Glad they helped.  here's a few more:

 http://www.stiefelmaier.com/images/nellis_2005/slides/blackhawk_engine_filtered.html

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/101-200/walk158_MH-60G/part3/walk158C.htm

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/ENG_T-700_from_HH-60G_lg.jpg

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7273094/Walk-Around-n19-UH60-Black-Hawk

rotorwash wrote:

Alex,   Glad they helped.  here's a few more:  http://www.stiefelmaier.com/images/nellis_2005/slides/blackhawk_engine_filtered.html http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/101-200/walk158_MH-60G/part3/walk158C.htm http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/ENG_T-700_from_HH-60G_lg.jpg http://www.scribd.com/doc/7273094/Walk-Around-n19-UH60-Black-Hawk

Just a couple of points.  The first link here is not a T700 series engine.  The last link to the walk around provides some decent info.  Some of the differences that you are seeing could be a result of the slightly different configuration between the engine installation on the right versus the left side (primarily the routing of the bleed air line for the starter on the right side coming over the top of the engine and the particle duct on the left side being outboard of the engine).

Here is a link that shows the engine on a stand without the duct installed.

T700

Sorry if I led anyone astray.  I know better than to post links to systems I don't know that well. Could someone tell me what type of engine that link actually shows?

    Ray

As an note, GE's site claims the T700 can be found in all these aircraft:

• AH-64
• UH-60L
• AH-1W
• SH-2G
• UH-1Y
• SH-60
• HH-60J
• MH-60G
• MH-60K
• AW101
• NH90
• S-92
• MH-60R/S
• UH-60M

However, this doesn't look anything like the photos of a T700 off the airframe:

[img]http://

From Drop Box

Is it just the ducting that's throwing me here or are there multiple variants of the engine?

Ray,

I think what you are seeing most on in the picture posted is a "blower" and ducting, for what I don't know, maybe to cool the exhaust.  You can see the main engine case buried behind and below the "blower".  It looks to be taking bled air from the compressor section, small duct coming up under the green wire.  This would be cold air and would make sense mixing with the exhaust gases and cooling them.  Purely conjecture on my part!  It ain't a Huey! 

Okay, here are some shots (not finished yet) but could you guys tell me what you think? It's not completely accurate, I know. More of a compilation of different pictures I've seen. But is there anything really important to fix? Just wanna know if I'm relatively on track.

View from top (still have to do a little work on the screen):

Top of the Engine:

Right:

Bottom:

Left:

Picture for the scale size:

Axel,

  Lookin' pretty good.  The soldier in that last pic looks like he has a T700 jetpack! 

    Ray

rotorwash wrote:

Sorry if I led anyone astray.  I know better than to post links to systems I don't know that well. Could someone tell me what type of engine that link actually shows?     Ray As an note, GE's site claims the T700 can be found in all these aircraft: AH-64 UH-60L AH-1W SH-2G UH-1Y SH-60 HH-60J MH-60G MH-60K AW101 NH90 S-92 MH-60R/S UH-60M However, this doesn't look anything like the photos of a T700 off the airframe: [img]http:// From Drop Box Is it just the ducting that's throwing me here or are there multiple variants of the engine?

The only ones that I am not sure about are the AW101 and the  NH90.  The others all use the T700 series engine, although various models within the series.  The M1 even uses the same basic engine!

In the picture, you are looking at the left engine on an Apache.  The large duct (ips duct) is for the inlet particle separator.  The bleed air tube below the green wire is for inlet anti-ice, at least it is on the Hawk and I imagine that it would be the same for an Apache.

Alex-
The engine is looking pretty good.  What comes in the kit is a pretty good starting point but some of the proportions are off, but that would really be getting into the nitty gritty, so I'll just throw out a few ideas to help busy it up like a real engine.

You could use some wire or fine solder to represent fuel and sensor lines on the engine.  The ips duct is made of fiberglass and is sort of a coffee color.  On the foreward portion fo the engine there are four wire harnesses, green, yellow, blue and white (just don't go crazy with them, they each only connect in a few places).  You could easily just pick out a couple of items in black and use a couple of metal shades on the core engine and it would really pop!

I can't do it now, but when the next phase starts, I'll try to remember to get some shots of the engines on the stands.

I hope to have been of some help.  Feel free to ask any questions or PM me for more info.

Screaminhelo wrote:

The engine is looking pretty good.  What comes in the kit is a pretty good starting point but some of the proportions are off, but that would really be getting into the nitty gritty, so I'll just throw out a few ideas to help busy it up like a real engine. You could use some wire or fine solder to represent fuel and sensor lines on the engine.  The ips duct is made of fiberglass and is sort of a coffee color.  On the foreward portion fo the engine there are four wire harnesses, green, yellow, blue and white (just don't go crazy with them, they each only connect in a few places).  You could easily just pick out a couple of items in black and use a couple of metal shades on the core engine and it would really pop! I can't do it now, but when the next phase starts, I'll try to remember to get some shots of the engines on the stands. I hope to have been of some help.  Feel free to ask any questions or PM me for more info.

Thank helo, that'll really help make some parts start out. I will get to work on that as soon as I can.  I found some good refrence shots of the colored wires in the front, and i'll try not to go overbord on them.

Screaminhelo,

 Good eye on the Apache engine,  I should have noticed the "wing" he was standing on.  I was focused on the engine area.  Couldn't see the forest for the trees kinda thing! 

Mac,

  Thanks for all the info. So if it's not a T700, what is this engine and what kind of aircraft is this?

   Thanks,

           Ray