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how to simulate a helicopter crash?
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:06 PM
what is the best way, i want it positioned on an embankment facing into the water, set in vietnam time, what type of damage to trees and embankment and the helicopter its sefl, does anyone have pictures
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:26 PM
I think if you rent Black Hawk Down, they tell how they did the crash scene. It crashed in the middle of a town/city, but it might help
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Posted by snakedriver on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 4:15 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about trees. If you're doing a Vietnam setting a pranged
UH-1 in a rice paddy would be an excellent subject. There are photos in the Squadron
Signal UH-1 in action. If the pilot was proficient and a little lucky, he could get a busted Huey down without doing too much added damage. In addition to the obvious battle damage (if he got shot down, some of this would need to be in the vulnerable engine area). Sometimes the rotor blades would flex and take a chunk (or totally sever) the
tail boom. Simulating damage to the aluminum skinned honey-comb blades would be tough.
If the bird hit a dike the results were often catastrophic. To simulate this I would build the model and then drop it on the kitchen floor and jump up and down on it a few times.
Pour the results into the rice paddy.
If fire followed the crash just build a portion of the vertical fin and tail rotor and plop that down at the end of a pile of ashes spread out in the profile of a Huey. If you want to be
really accurate put a scorched replica of the transmission somewhere in the middle of the ash pile.
Aside from the wise___ remarks, downed Hueys often had some of the plexiglass busted out or the skids spread from a hard "landing". A rice paddy setting will give you the opportunity to pose some grunts on the dikes and crew members or rescuers in the water.
If you go to the VHPA website and click on some of the unit links there are tons of
period photos which could help.
Just talking about this has me thinking...
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 4:21 PM
wow, anyway, erm whats the VHPA web site, im new to this site and dont have much knowledge cheers for the info anway...
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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 4:33 PM
I have done this as well. Mine is a Navy Seawolf Huey downed in a river area with a Light SEAL Support Craft coming to the rescue. I broke the plexi on the front canopy, put various holes in the area of the engine, broke the blades apart, and pushed up one of skids. Here is are a couple of links to a photo of it: http://www.armorama.com/modules/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=4393&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=2

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:51 PM
You might also try to check out a book (softcover) called "Bent Rotors". I think there have been at least two editions, and they've got great crash photos...almost all of them from the Vietnam era.
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Posted by snakedriver on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 8:29 PM
Rad,
Sorry 'bout that. VHPA = Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association

www.vhpa.org

Bent Rotors is a good one!
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 7, 2004 8:57 PM
cheers salbando ive checked it out and will be ordering a copy tomorrow, i found it on the internet just now , cheers for all your replys Rad
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 15, 2004 1:47 AM
Hey Radders84,
Here's a shot of a CH-47D that experienced an engine failure followed by a hard landing. At least the pics will show some damage for you. Unfortunately the bird was destroyed in place so the T&A wouldn't be able to use anything from her.
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