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New Tooled 1/48 Helicopter - Which of these three?

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Posted by Boba Fett on Friday, September 24, 2010 2:16 PM

I guess you do have a point there... Ok, NOW I wish for sane people to actually draw the instructions!!! Stick out tongue

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, September 24, 2010 2:14 PM

I hear you and know what you are saying.  The 160th SOAR info is out there, you just have to dig for.  I wouldn't want a manufacturer to do it in their instructions.  I have never seen an instructions that has the right info to begin with.  They would just screw it up and continue the trend of inaccurate models, like the Academy AH-60L DAP.  There is no such helo.  The US doesn't have an AH-60, as you know, its the MH-60L DAP.  Or the yellow decals in the DAP kit - WTF?  Or how about the extra .50 cal door gun mounts on the Academy MH-60G.  This was only a test set-up on a few helos (actually only 1 I can find) around the time of ODS.  It wasn't used operationally as it cut down usable space to nothing and just about maxed out the weight of the aircraft.  If you follow Academy's directions, you have a bunch of what-if helos.  I'll take the time to do the research myslef and get them right.

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Posted by Boba Fett on Friday, September 24, 2010 1:55 PM

I think I just mis-stated my question. It would be helpful for the manufacturer to say have an instruction manual that showed what was and was not on the copter at that time. Example, like having option A being a mogadishu bird, B being Gulf war, C being Iraq Freedom, etc. Not that I'm lazy, but it would make construction a little easier. Also, when dealing with special forces, it's harder to come up with information. I have found little info over the internet about 160th SOAR birds and fewer pictures. I know it's not exactly classified info, but there is just far less than a normal unit. I wasn't exactly sure what upgrades were made to DAP's and if the 160th made further upgrades themselves. Yes, the info you gave me was pretty much comprehensive, but I'm also thinking of another person that wouldn't be able to locate the same info, etc. It seems that there are a lot of people that are unsure with Gothic Serpent MH-60's, that's really all I was trying to say. And another thing is I'm always looking for more pictures because I like scratchbuilding details. readily available information is less than what I need, so I end up trolling trough tons of internet material to find the answers. Honestly, without these forums I'd be blissfully assembling the kit, hellfires, probes, etc. and having a heart-attack later. So essentially, my wish is just for a kit that had a little more in the interior detail department, and instructions suited for that era. That's pretty much it.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 24, 2010 1:33 PM

Excellent info there. Thanks for the link.Yes Whenever I get around to building my MH-60 one day...

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, September 24, 2010 1:10 PM

The US Army Ranger mission in Mogadishu was code named Op Gothic Serpent.  You should have all you need from that post to make a pretty accurate model of one of the MH-60Ls used there.  What more do you need?  You won't find a numbered , step by step instructions on which parts from which kits to use on one.  You have to figure it out yourself.  Thats why its called model building.

The MH-60L IP is the same as an MH-60G.  It is a hybrid glass and analog panel.  It looks like this:

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Posted by Boba Fett on Friday, September 24, 2010 10:14 AM

I meant having instructions that were specifically designed for a Mogadishu bird. O rhave an "optional" listing of parts as for which to use for which era.I'm still trying to figure out which instrument panel is correct. Thanks for your link though, it's very helpful!

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, September 24, 2010 10:06 AM

...MH-60, with parts for either modern-day or mogadishu era. (that or better instructions that explain those mods)...

How does this grab you....

Op Gothic Serpent (BH Down) Blackhawk info

It should be all the info you need.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, September 23, 2010 1:42 AM

MV-22B

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Posted by Boba Fett on Monday, September 20, 2010 12:02 PM

HH-60. Blackhawks rock. Plus I'd like a better MH-60, with parts for either modern-day or mogadishu era. (that or better instructions that explain those mods)

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Posted by rotorwash on Monday, September 20, 2010 11:48 AM

AH-1W!!!!!

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Posted by rescuehawk on Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:03 AM

AH-1W

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Posted by Railfan 233 on Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:07 PM

That's a hard one.

I still havn't gotten or built the Revell Sikorsky CH-54 Sky Crane or Uh-1 Huey yet. I want to get those out of the way.

If I absolutely had to cast a vote on one of these 3, I would say the HH-60 Black Hawk.

  

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Posted by Heloguy on Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:46 PM

AH-1W by far.

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Posted by Luca on Monday, September 13, 2010 5:06 PM

Ah-1W ... !! Bow Down

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:05 PM

MV-22...

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Posted by Killjoy on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 1:03 PM

I have to go with the AH-1W.  I like the snake, and would love to see a new kit for it!

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, August 15, 2010 7:20 PM

MV-22 for 1st choice... a new AH-1G before a new AH-W next...

 

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Posted by Dave Roof on Sunday, August 15, 2010 5:39 PM

Unfortunately this isn't a wish list request. The three choices presented are there for a reason. Maybe sometime in the future there will be more options, but for now these are the only three aircraft being considered.

 

Thank you,

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Posted by Screaminhelo on Sunday, August 15, 2010 4:11 PM

I'd like to agree with fermis and vote for the Skycrane, I'd love to see what you could come up with there.  Give the options that you presented though, I would choose the -60H/J

 

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Posted by supercobra on Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:07 AM

AH-1W with options for NTS and original and turned exhaust and original.

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Posted by Medicman71 on Saturday, August 14, 2010 10:37 PM

Hmmm that's a hard one. I'm currently building the MV-22 from Italeri and it's not too bad. It would be better with some support from the aftermarket people. I's like to see a CV-22 though. I'd have to pick the AH-1W.

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:55 PM

Confused CH-54!!!

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Posted by Melgyver on Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:50 AM

I would have to go with the MV-22B also.

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:22 AM

MV-22B, though the AH-1W is tempting too.

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New Tooled 1/48 Helicopter - Which of these three?
Posted by Dave Roof on Saturday, August 14, 2010 7:17 AM

Gentlemen,

If you could choose only one of these three aircraft to see as a new tooled kit in 1/48 scale, which would it be?

HH-60H/J

AH-1W

MV-22B

 

Thank you,

Dave

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