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A pair of eggs - double 1:72 OH-6A Loach WIP

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  • From: Poland
A pair of eggs - double 1:72 OH-6A Loach WIP
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:17 PM

Hello!

Long time ago I have built the Italeri 1:72 OH-6A. It was the model that started my interest in the Vietnam War. Back then I have built it quick and easy and made a few mistakes, many of them already built-in in the kit itself. I've been thinking about improving on that, and so here we go - another try. And one more :-) You see I had two kits in my stash - the Italeri kit and another, from a company called AZ Model. It's actually a modified copy of the Italeri offering. In all the photos below if you see olive drab plastic it's from the Italeri kit, gray plastic is the AZ Model parts and white plastic is my scratchbuilding.

We're talking about those two kits:

Italeri 1:72 OH-6A

AZ Model 1:72 OH-6A over Vietnam

OK, so here's what we get in the boxes:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

As you can see the AZ Model fuselage has all the doors on - they have to go for a Vietnam chopper. The Italeri also has the doors on the right fuselage half - the one that least needs it. The left Italeri fuselage half has nasty notches in places where the door hinges would be - and those notches shouldn't be there. But the biggest problem with BOTH of the kits is that they actually show later civilian Hughes 500 fuselages instead of the Hughes 369 / OH-6A that flew in Vietnam. The most noticeable difference is seen in the rear window and the shape of the rear door. On the OH-6A the rear door was significanly lower than the front door which allowed for a big rear window. On the Hughes 500 the rear door had a height equal to the front door, and so the rear window was smaller - and this is how it looks like in both kits. The AZ Model also has a drip rail above the door - many newer Variants of the Hughes 500 have that, but the OH-6As didn't.

I'm trying to model one "Egg" with the "music box" - minigun in the rear and the rear windows patched over with sheet metal. The other "Egg" will have the rear windows and no "music box".

I started cutting out the unnecessary doors from the fuselage halves. It was the time to think about the corrections for the problem mentioned above:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

In the above photo you see the holes I drilled to remove the extra styrene. I also started to enlarge the rear bulkhead, that is way too small for the fuselage. In the chopper with no rear windows I blanked them off with sheet styrene. In the other one I cut out a portion of the fuselage around the windows and replaced it with pieces of bent clear plate. That should give me nice, smooth seamless windows. I also lowered the upper edge of the rear doors:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

I also started detailing the rear compartment. Both of the kits give you a civilian main transmission cover - and in Vietnam the airmen flying the chopper tried to get rid of extra weight - so they removed most if not all of the interior lining, and so the main transmission was exposed - I tried to show that. But first I had o enlarge the bulkhead to make it fit the fuselage and put the floor at the right level, flush with the door threshold:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

In the photo below you can see my reworked main bulkhead with the unnecessary void spaces filled, notches that should be there cut and the slot for the external electrical connection added. The rear bulkhead has the engine shaft cover and the main transmission added:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

Now I had to do it one more time, this time for the Italeri model. I also added one more detail to the bulkheads - looks like some kind of heating duct. The "trannies" are not fixed yet - to make painting easier. The interior is gray and the "trannies" should be black:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

And that would be all for now - now I'm working on the front of the interior. Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by GlennH on Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:34 PM

Great. I am gonna follow with interest.

A number RVN scans from hundreds yet to be done:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/southwestdreams/albums/72157621855914355

Have had the great fortune to be on every side of the howitzers.

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Posted by Headhunter88 on Wednesday, December 21, 2016 3:58 PM

Me too Smile

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, December 23, 2016 12:04 PM

the pilot of that helicopter, Miss Clawd, still posts once in a while on modeling forums.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, December 23, 2016 3:58 PM

Hey ! Pawel !

 What do you call a Loach with Gun Pods -" A hard boiled egg ! ! lol.?

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, December 23, 2016 6:28 PM

Hello!

Thanks for the comments!

Glenn, Patryk - you're welcome, let's just see how often I can post a worthwhile update on this one (those two) - fitting that interior is really tedious!

Rob - I don't know if he still posts, I'm sure I've seen posts by mr. Mills here on the forums. I sure would welcome a tip or two from him in this thread, it's hard to imagine better info. But I'm not doing Miss Clawd IV - everybody else does, I hope mr. Mills doesn't mind. From his unit I'm doing "The Enforcer" - a machine in similar markings but still different.

TB - that's a good one, I think I'll start using that phrase regularly!

Thanks again and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Revenant on Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:49 AM

Tiny!

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, December 24, 2016 2:24 PM

Nice work Pawel....looking for more!!!Toast

 

Revenant

Tiny!

 

Didn't you "bash" these two kits?

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Posted by Revenant on Sunday, December 25, 2016 11:25 AM

fermis

Nice work Pawel....looking for more!!!Toast

 

 

 
Revenant

Tiny!

 

 

 

Didn't you "bash" these two kits?

 

Now that you mention it...yes...

Won first at 2015 Nats...

 

 

 

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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, December 25, 2016 4:14 PM

Hello!

That looks REALLY nice! I see you corrected the door problem, too! In the end you didn't use much of the Italeri kit, did you? Thanks for sharing and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 4:41 PM

Hello!

Work is going on slow, but I have an update for you:

I'm preparing to close up the hull, I mean minus glass. I'm going to detail the insides after it's closed (without glass) to avoid breaking the details in process. I had to use a lot of various shims to get the interior to fit without major gaps:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

Beefing up the front bulkhead (along the front floor edge) helped to align the floor with the door thresholds.

I started building up the instrument panel. I had to scratchbuild the central tunnel that is not there at all in the Italeri kit and only hinted at in the AZ Model kit. I have hollowed out the kit instrument panel of both kits and I'm using PE Parts from Airwaves (AEC72125):

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

I'll wire it later, too, but first I have to paint it a little bit before the wires make it impossible. I'm also working on the crew - I want to have a pilot an an observer in both of them babies. I'm using the helicopter crew from the CMK kit (F72080) and from the PJ Productions (721129). For now I have cut up one of the CMK pilots. He is shaped to fit an armored seat of a Huey, and he's a pretty large fellow, doesn't really fit the Loach, so I had to reshape him a little. I also wanted him to wear a "chicken plate" so I have modified the torso a little:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

That'd be it for now, thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Pawel on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 3:53 PM

Hello!

Another update!

I'm working on the instrument panels. I want to do the wiring of the individual instruments, so I have glued thin copper wire in the holes that I have drilled before:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

The wires are painted with white Gunze paint - looks kinda funny, doesn't it? After that I have bent the wires and painted them. I have also painted the instruments - the bezels are flat black and the faces are gloss black. The radio switches got a white wash and now my babies look like on the photo below:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

I have also managed to close up the hull of the Italeri one, now the seams are filled with molten sprue and the thresholds of the doors are filled with Surfacer 500:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

Now I have the basic dimensions I'm going on with fitting the pilot in. I have managed to lose like 3mm of his height and now he fits in. As you can see the hands are way to long now, I will have to shorten them:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

It's important to do it early, so I have also test-fitted the glass. In the Italeri model it fits quite well:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

Now I'm planning to close up the fuselage of the AZ Model Loach, let's see how this goes. Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Revenant on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 10:36 PM

...nice...dig the pilot.  Wiring is a bit thick...

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Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, January 04, 2017 6:25 AM

Hello!

Thanks a lot!

Abot that wire - yes, I realized it was a bit thick just after painting. By the way, one wire represents a several wire bundle here.

Thanks for looking, have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: The Redwood Empire
Posted by Aaronw on Saturday, January 07, 2017 1:54 AM

That is quite a job you've taken on. I built Miss Clawd IV from the Italeri kit several years ago and it is a tiny model.

Very impressive to see someone adding the level of detail that you are to this kit. 

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Posted by templar1099 on Saturday, January 07, 2017 2:26 PM

Pawel,your eye for detail is exemplary.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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Posted by Pawel on Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:55 PM

Aaron, templar1099 - thanks a lot for your kind words! The model is indeed tiny, but I like detailing stuff like that. Good thing there are references on the 'net to help me!

And I have another update for you. I managed to get the other fuselage closed up:

1:72 Italeri/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

It needed a whole lot of clamping to fit the interior in, and the top of the front bubble opening is now a bit too narrow - somebody messed up the engineering here. I'll rectify it. The transparent bubbles of both models are so close dimensionally, that after cutting them from the sprue I can't tell them apart now. Now I'll work the seams and I'll have to rescribe both fuselages - just lightly on the AZ Model one, and fully on the Italeri one.

I have also more or less finished the poses of two figs and now I have the crew for one of the "Eggs":

1:72 Italeri/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

Boys are still poseable, I have pinned them with thin copper wire.

And that would be it for now - thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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    November, 2016
Posted by BIGBOB on Thursday, February 09, 2017 3:16 PM

Pawel

Hello!

Long time ago I have built the Italeri 1:72 OH-6A. It was the model that started my interest in the Vietnam War. Back then I have built it quick and easy and made a few mistakes, many of them already built-in in the kit itself. I've been thinking about improving on that, and so here we go - another try. And one more :-) You see I had two kits in my stash - the Italeri kit and another, from a company called AZ Model. It's actually a modified copy of the Italeri offering. In all the photos below if you see olive drab plastic it's from the Italeri kit, gray plastic is the AZ Model parts and white plastic is my scratchbuilding.

We're talking about those two kits:

Italeri 1:72 OH-6A

AZ Model 1:72 OH-6A over Vietnam

OK, so here's what we get in the boxes:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

As you can see the AZ Model fuselage has all the doors on - they have to go for a Vietnam chopper. The Italeri also has the doors on the right fuselage half - the one that least needs it. The left Italeri fuselage half has nasty notches in places where the door hinges would be - and those notches shouldn't be there. But the biggest problem with BOTH of the kits is that they actually show later civilian Hughes 500 fuselages instead of the Hughes 369 / OH-6A that flew in Vietnam. The most noticeable difference is seen in the rear window and the shape of the rear door. On the OH-6A the rear door was significanly lower than the front door which allowed for a big rear window. On the Hughes 500 the rear door had a height equal to the front door, and so the rear window was smaller - and this is how it looks like in both kits. The AZ Model also has a drip rail above the door - many newer Variants of the Hughes 500 have that, but the OH-6As didn't.

I'm trying to model one "Egg" with the "music box" - minigun in the rear and the rear windows patched over with sheet metal. The other "Egg" will have the rear windows and no "music box".

I started cutting out the unnecessary doors from the fuselage halves. It was the time to think about the corrections for the problem mentioned above:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

In the above photo you see the holes I drilled to remove the extra styrene. I also started to enlarge the rear bulkhead, that is way too small for the fuselage. In the chopper with no rear windows I blanked them off with sheet styrene. In the other one I cut out a portion of the fuselage around the windows and replaced it with pieces of bent clear plate. That should give me nice, smooth seamless windows. I also lowered the upper edge of the rear doors:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

I also started detailing the rear compartment. Both of the kits give you a civilian main transmission cover - and in Vietnam the airmen flying the chopper tried to get rid of extra weight - so they removed most if not all of the interior lining, and so the main transmission was exposed - I tried to show that. But first I had o enlarge the bulkhead to make it fit the fuselage and put the floor at the right level, flush with the door threshold:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

In the photo below you can see my reworked main bulkhead with the unnecessary void spaces filled, notches that should be there cut and the slot for the external electrical connection added. The rear bulkhead has the engine shaft cover and the main transmission added:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

Now I had to do it one more time, this time for the Italeri model. I also added one more detail to the bulkheads - looks like some kind of heating duct. The "trannies" are not fixed yet - to make painting easier. The interior is gray and the "trannies" should be black:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

And that would be all for now - now I'm working on the front of the interior. Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

 

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Posted by BIGBOB on Thursday, February 09, 2017 3:22 PM
i am doing one for a friend so looking forward to reading about it
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Posted by Pawel on Sunday, February 26, 2017 1:27 PM

Hello BIGBOB!

Thanks a lot for your comment and I'm sorry you had to wait so long for an answer - I'm a slow builder!

I have a small update on this one. I have rescribed the hulls and I also have built the pilot's armor:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

I have also fit both crews and I have started painting them:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

The seatbelts are PE parts from a comapy called Kuivalainen, kit no. KPE 72024, they are very nice.

Now I'm working to put the cockpits together.

Thanks for reading and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by Bossman on Thursday, March 02, 2017 8:47 PM

Really nice work Pawel.

Chris

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Posted by Revenant on Friday, March 03, 2017 6:48 AM

Stick out tongueNot bad...I would have added some color to the helmets...

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, March 03, 2017 2:41 PM

Thanks a lot for your kind words, Chris!

Have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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Posted by Headhunter88 on Friday, March 31, 2017 12:15 PM

So many happens so i nearly forgot about your work.

Those 2 little babies looks ossom.

When i'll find some spare time i write to you about them in private message.

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Posted by Pawel on Friday, March 31, 2017 5:23 PM

Revenant - I don't know how I missed your message, sorry about that! I thought about some cool markings on the helmets, but I didn't have a good idea what and how to do this. It's still not to late, though!

Headhunter88 - thanks a lot for your comment and your kind words! Looking forward to your message - have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Saturday, July 15, 2017 3:38 PM

Hello!

I just can't believe, how long I didn't post any update here - this has to change.

I have installed the armor in both of the fuselages. The PE parts from the Airwaves kit turned out to be useless, so I have made my own out of some ice cream packaging (thin styrene sheet):

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

I have done a lot more work on the other "Egg". I'm almost ready to install the pilot there - he's fitted to his seat, the hand on the collective still removable. I have installed the cables for the seat belts locks and the linkage for the cyclic stick (pointed to by the arrow). Now the tricky part will be to install the pilot first and the stick later:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

Next, after the pilot, I'll tackle the rudder pedals. Thanks for looking and I hope you like it - have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:24 PM

Hello!

I've got the first cockpit almost fitted out. Just the tail rotot pedals left to do, and I could try to put the glass on. So far I have rigged the second seat with belts. I have installed the first aid kit, the second stick, a map pocket with WP grenades and an M16 riflehere's what the cockpit looks like now:

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

1:72 Italer/AZ Model OH-6A Loach/Cayuse by Pawel

Thanks for looking and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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