HH-60G Pavehawk Walkaround

Sal,
Great photos, thanks.

Sal

Nice photos!!!!! These are really going to help out on that decal sheet. I'm going to e-mail you a LoRes proof later this week to look over.

And (heh), I was going to ask about the Jolly Green Giant on display in the background until I remembered the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. Somewhere a corporate marketing manager is having kittens over what ya'll have done to their icon. Nice work!

Avus, I'm waiting to hear back from the printer on the decal issue. Work's been murder this week, that's why you're just now hearing back from me. And, the Pave hawk sheet I'm working on will have markings for that unit's bird you're wanting to build (I don't remember the unit number but I know the pic you're basing it off of - they're out of Patrick AFB in Florida)

Great pictures! Thanks for posting the site and all the work you did!

Thanks guys. Anything I can do to help out, and as I said in the original post...stay tuned. I'm going to be making several other walkaround posts to ARC (gotta love the digital camera).

Trigger,
I'll be looking forward to those decals. I hope you don't mind my taking advantage of your hard work, but they'll come in REAL handy when I do my unit's HH-60G's and even HC-130's.
BTW, the Patrick AFB boys are the 41st RQS. They're an Air Force Reserve unit. I got a buddy flying with them. Rough duty down there at pebble beach.
Oh, and I'm working on getting a few digital photos of our nose/fuselage artwork for ya. Our 50th anniversary logo, the "lets roll" logo, and some other stuff.

Great pics, Sal (as usual)!
I was checking the ARC every day to see when they'd post your walkaround. Eventually they did.
Nice work. Thanks!

Trigger74
How the heck did you know I'd read this post?
I beleive that you won't have the same problem I have with decals because AF markings are black and so you should be able to see them on a Pavehawk, wich has a relatively light paint scheme.
Thanks for thinking of me for the unit markings!

THANKS SAL!!! I havent been her in a while as ive been working and sleeping ALOT! I finfished the inside of my Pave, and am working on the outside now.

Great photos

We appreciate all you've done, Sal. Great pics!!

Randie

Thanks for all the kind words guys. I'll be making a couple more walk around posts covering M/HH-60G combat ops photos from Afghanistan, and an M/HC-130N walk around. The combat photos will not only show the combat configurations for the Pavehawk, but will also include crew members (FE's, Gunners, Pilots and PJ's) showing the various aircrew gear and equipment. I'll be sure to give a heads-up post when it's available at ARC.

QUOTE: Originally posted by salbando Thanks for all the kind words guys. I'll be making a couple more walk around posts covering M/HH-60G combat ops photos from Afghanistan, and an M/HC-130N walk around. The combat photos will not only show the combat configurations for the Pavehawk, but will also include crew members (FE's, Gunners, Pilots and PJ's) showing the various aircrew gear and equipment. I'll be sure to give a heads-up post when it's available at ARC.

Can't wait to see these!! I like all the reference photos I can get my hands on!!!

Randie

Hi guys, I have the Revell Sikorsky MH-60L 1/48 & since I'm not really well acquainted with aircrafts especially helicopters I have this question, whats the difference between the HH-60G & the MH-60L? Thanks in advance.

Without getting into the finer details here...

HH-60G (same thing as MH-60G) - U.S. Air Force dual role of Special Forces insertion and extraction as well as Search and Rescue. The "Pave Hawk" is flown by both active duty and ANG units here, Alaska, Japan and Iceland and have been deployed worldwide. Color weather radar is carried in the thimble radome off-center on the nose and now you'll see more and more using a FLIR turrent mounted on the nose as well. Some Pave Hawks carry a radar mounted just like the MH-60L, but I don't know if it's the same one. For the longest time, Pave hawks carried a European 1 scheme of two greens and a gray, but some in Desert Storm flew with a two-tone brown and some in OIF flew with a three-tone sand schemes. Now that all Pave hawks are falling under the command of AFSOC, they're coming back from depot in overall Gunship gray. Oh yeah, and even though they could, they never fly with external tanks or even the ESS mounted, it gets in the way of the mini-guns. From the outset, it's had an air-to-air refueling probe.

MH-60L - US Army Special Ops Blackhawk flown by the 160th SOAR (Special Operations Aviation Regiment) out of Ft. Campbell modified with FLIR turrent, weather radar. Sometimes referred to as the AH-60L DAP, the idea of arming a Blackhawk with rockets and forward firing machine guns into a "Direct Action Penetrator" is the brainchild of Cliff Wolcott. He didn't get a chance to get them ready for Panama, but they flew SCUD hunts in Desert Storm and participated in Operation Gothic Serpent in Somalia. You've seen them in "Black Hawk Down." They also had a "too brief but still cool" crucial scene in "Clear and Present Danger" with ESS mounted (probably because they filmed those scenes in Mexico and they didn't have tanker support). All MH-60Ls are painted black with OD markings (barely) visible on them.

Check out the boards here for more on the Pave Hawk. Salbando has posted a lot about them here.

Also check out the walkarounds at http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/ there's an good MH-60L gallery in there.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/mh-60g.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/mh-60l.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/mh-60l-dap.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/uh-60.htm

Trigger,
Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks buudy.

Salbando,
By any chance do you have any photos of the new upgraded helos? In need of photos of the externally mounted ammo can and mounts for the gun and chaff dispensers. I found some pics on the DoD website but none clear enough to model.

Thanks,
John

John,
Sorry for not responding to your e-mail earlier but they finally gave me a few days off and I took advantage of it and filled my freezer with some Halibut.
Anyway, the external gun and ammo box mounts are a fairly new block upgrade along with the nose mounted plume detectors (just like the 160th SOAR MH-60's). Rumor is that the HF antenna "towel rack" on the tail is going away as well. HF has never really been all that great on the HH-60G and since we've got SATCOM, it's a moot point. My squadron's got two birds down at depot upgrade right now, so when they get back I'll make another submission to ARC and will post the link here.
Hope everyone can wait until then. BTW, they're coming back in AFSOC gray as well so the Euro I paint scheme will eventually become a thing of the past. We'll still have a mixed fleet until all our HH-60G's have gone through the latest block 152/162 upgrades.

Hi, anybody here know of any PE part for the 1/48 Revell MH-60. Thanks in advance.

John,
Some late model Pavehawk pix (in the older Euro1 scheme):
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/040518-F-0000D-002.jpg
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/040409-F-6911G-003.jpg

Alex,
Eduard has an MH-60G PE exterior set Catalogue #48471 ($22.95) and Interior Catalogue #48465 ($22.95)

http://www.eduard.com/
http://spruebrothers.zoovy.com/

Thanks Trigger.

Hi guys. I was just wondering if there are any AM mini guns for the Revell 1/48 MH-60L? Thanks in advance.

Alex
Two more late model Pave Hawk pix:
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/040515-F-7823A-005.jpg
http://www.af.mil/media/photodb/photos/040515-F-7823A-006.jpg

And, check out www.cobracompany.com. He's just released a 1/48 weapons set for the MH-60L DAP earlier this month. There's also an MH-60L conversion from the UH-60 that may contain what you're looking for.

Thanks again trigger. Those are good reference pix.

Hi all

I just bought the Revell 1/48 MH-60L Blackhawk and I'm trying to find out what the official paint/colour scheme is.

Does anyone know what the official scheme is or where I would be able to find that info?

Thanks
John

QUOTE: Originally posted by osjohnm Hi all I just bought the Revell 1/48 MH-60L Blackhawk and I'm trying to find out what the official paint/colour scheme is. Does anyone know what the official scheme is or where I would be able to find that info? Thanks John

John,
The overall color is flat Black, with Olive Drab markings. The decals in the RoG kit are way too light (an icky Ochre color ). Cobra Co has Olive Drab US Army signage for the Blackhawk in all scales.

For some really nice pictures of the MH-60L go here: http://www.specialoperations.com/Aviation/default.html

HTH,
Albert

Thanks for the info Albert.

I noticed that u have the MH-60L on your workbench, any fit problems or "funnies" that you've come across yet?

Thanks again for your response

QUOTE: Originally posted by osjohnm Thanks for the info Albert. I noticed that u have the MH-60L on your workbench, any fit problems or "funnies" that you've come across yet? Thanks again for your response

I'm just getting into the cockpit build up right now. I've done some dry-fitting of the major assemblies, they seem to fit all right for the most part. The MAJOR area to watch out for is the fit of the wind screen. I've heard that it is a real bugger to fit because of the breakdown of the overhead panel and the windscreen (and having that port side door a seperate piece only adds to the headache). The cockpit/cargo floor could use some shimming to increase the width so there won't be a huge gap between the floor and fuselage. Detail leaves alot to be desired, so I'm improving the cockpit and other areas with aftermarket goodies and some scratch-built bits.

Cheers,
Albert

to salbando........
the link works great and thanks for sharing your efforts...........