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Krivak/Sterezhovey Helos

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Krivak/Sterezhovey Helos
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 4:03 PM

Hi ;

Anyone know where I can find these little beasties in 1/700 ?

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 4:23 PM

This comes to mind, though from memory the helos were a bit ordinary. 

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/246559-aoshima-01522-russian-naval-plane

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, November 30, 2017 7:53 AM

Tanker - Builder

Anyone know where I can find these little beasties in 1/700 ? 

 

Ka-25 Hormones are included in the DML/Dragon USS Ohio vs Soviet Alfa dual kit in 1:700.

The kit has been re-issued under the Testors and Italieri labels

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Posted by Phil_H on Sunday, December 03, 2017 6:18 AM

Trumpeter also have a 6 pack of 1/700 KA-27 Helix's 

http://www.trumpeter-china.com/index.php?g=home&m=product&a=show&id=2362&l=en 

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Posted by Surface_Line on Friday, December 15, 2017 9:34 PM

The Storozhevoi was a Krivak I.  Neither those nor Krivak IIs had a flight deck.  No helo onboard or facilities.

In case you are planning a diorama with a helo hovering nearby, it would need to be a Ka-25 Hormone at the time of the Storozhevoi mutiny.  The mutiny occurred in 1975 and the Ka-27 Helix didn't enter service until 1982.

If you are building the Krivak from the Skywave Orange box #M-4, watch out - the helicopter on the generic equipment sprue in this kit (as well as the Equipment Set #58 for Soviet warships) is a Helix.  (The Helix has a longer fuselage than the Hormone (37' as opposed to the Hormone's 32').  Helix looks like a rectangle and Hormone is closer to square when viewed from the side.

As mentioned above, the Dragon/ Italeri kit of USS Ohio with an Alfa has a Hormone - not bad.

Aoshima made an aircraft set of vtol Forgers and Hormones for their Minsk/ Kiev kits, but they weren't as nice as the Dragon/ Italeri piece.

Rick

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Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:23 AM

Surface_Line

The Storozhevoi was a Krivak I.  Neither those nor Krivak IIs had a flight deck.  No helo onboard or facilities.

IIRC the KIII, which was helo capable, was used by the KGB Border Protection service. 

Shouldn't be too difficult to kit-mangle a KI/KII into a KIII.

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Posted by Surface_Line on Saturday, December 16, 2017 3:30 PM

But I thought TB was asking about the Storozhevoi?  That ship is a Krivak I.  And it is only noteworthy for an event that occurred in 1975.  Therefore I replied with Krivak I info.

And by the way, as for Krivak III, Larrt Gertner once pointed out to me how the bridge on the Krivak III was a deck and a half higher than on the I and II.  I saw the difference, but have not been able to nail down the specific deck plans that would effect the change.  I agree that the flight deck and moved guns would be fairly straightforward.  Do you have any references that talk about modifying the superstructure to get a Krivak III?

Rick

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