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CH-53A, HMH-362, "Ugly Angels" build

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  • Member since
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  • From: East Bethel, MN
Posted by midnightprowler on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 4:07 PM

Looking great. 

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

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Posted by Gunny Dan on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 11:51 AM

Build update:

Things are progressing nicely, I present "Ugly 07"!  The side art is darker than I had hoped but it will do.

Ran into a small issue with my decal sheet, I am using an older sheet of 45 degree white lettering and my second set of squadron markings fell apart in the water.  So I am searching everywhere for a replacement sheet.  I see them on ebay, but not quite sure if those are the correct size as most of the descriptions do not list the sizes of the letters only scale.

r/Gy Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

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Posted by Gunny Dan on Monday, December 7, 2020 7:28 PM

Gino,

ok. Good call. I will go with decals or dry transfers which I have used in the past. I read a few posts over on the decaling forum. White is the Achilles heel of at home printing of decals. I’m not buying an ALPs printer anytme  soon. 

Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

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1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, December 7, 2020 4:13 PM

Gunny Dan
I have never tried to print "white" decals on a clear piece of the inkhet decal paper, so I will be experimenting with that next, as I need to print in white...

Unless you have a commercial Alps printer, you can't.  Home printers don't print white as they assume the paper is white and just leave that area w/out ink.  To get white, you have to start with white decal paper and match the fuselage color with a box, then choose white font to place inside the box.  You will get a green box with white lettering, cut this out and place it onto the model, touching up the fuselage color to blend it in.  Or, paint white on the fuselage and use clear decal paper with the same green box setup and white font.  You will get a clear spot where the lettering is and the white underneath will show through.

If you can get white lettering decals, you will be better off.  It can be a pain in the a** to get them to blend well and not look different due to having to match the fuselage color in ink.

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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Monday, December 7, 2020 2:41 PM

Build Update:

Worked on the fuselage this weekend.  Finishing the decaling.  I used the Reskit after market tires and rims, very happy with those, they are dead on for the Goodyear "aviator" tires and the rims a perfect for the 53A/D.  I added the FM antenna on the belly and also added the HF antenna down the right side of the helo.  In the 53A/D we used the FM quite a bit back in the day to talk to infantry folks, our helicopter support team (HST) guys, they hooked our loads up for us.

The HF worked but we did not use it much stateside.  Mostly only overseas.

Also I added the exhaust covers and pitot tube covers.

Old wheel compared to AM part

HF antenna install

I made a mistake in my own post above and painted my TRB in the opposite colors.  So here I had to remask them and start over....Embarrassed

Finishing up the final decals, awaiting some microscale modern white numbers to arrive, and I will put the squadron marking under the Marines.  I added the tail flash as well.  YL.

I have never tried to print "white" decals on a clear piece of the inkhet decal paper, so I will be experimenting with that next, as I need to print in white, the T/M/S "CH-53D" and his BuNo he requested.  I have downloaded the correct font and have done this in the past on the low/vis models I have done, gray and black, but never attempted white.

Fingers crossed.

r/Gunny Dan

 

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Monday, December 7, 2020 2:28 PM

TigerII, 

If it was in or around MCAS New River it was either HMH-362, HMH-461 or HMH-464.  They all were back there with CH-53A/D/E's.

I lifted a lot of arty in my day, M198's under 53E's, M155's under the 53D's.  CAX out at 29 stumps, Yuma, WTI, and of course Iraq, Afghan.  Only buried a muzzle once!  Pilot came in hot and drug the load on me.  But I never dropped the slings on the sights, always slid to the side.  Nothing like a dual point of M198 and a sling load of ammo under it to get your attention.

Semper Fi!!

r/Gunny

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

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  • From: East Stroudsburg, PA
Posted by TigerII on Sunday, December 6, 2020 11:34 AM

I don't know what squadron it was but I knew that I rode in a couple of these big choppers when I was attached as an Arty Forward Observer (2nd Bn/2nd Marines) or the FSCC NCOIC (2nd Bn/8th Marines) with 3rd Bn/10th Marines as they were stationed at MCAS New River. Nice build so far Gunny; Semper Fi.

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, December 6, 2020 11:06 AM

Hey,Gunny!

 OOH RAH ! Nice Chopper Model!!

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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Saturday, December 5, 2020 8:25 PM
Lee. Yes I’ll send that pic tonight Sir. Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

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1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

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  • From: East Bethel, MN
Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, December 5, 2020 7:37 AM

Looking good. Did you see my pm sir?

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

Co. A, 682 Engineers, Ltchfield, MN, 1980-1986

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-54

Ask me about Speedway Decals

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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Friday, December 4, 2020 5:47 PM

Getting the blades ready for weathering and final dull coat.

r/Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Friday, December 4, 2020 2:04 PM

In the last phases of this build.  The decaling for the most part is done.  A little ghosting is present, even with the high gloss coat, I am hoping it will fade with my final overcoat.

I am putting on the walkways now.  Read a couple of good ideas on non-skid/walkway application and paint methods in this months FSM magazine, as well as some forum posts.  I remember non-skiding my helicopter a couple of times, clumpy gooey mess, but it was necessary for how much these aircraft leak.

I also found 3rdMAW decals did a run of 1/48th scale HMH-362 decals.  They were gray low-vis, but they did include a color Ugly Angel squadron logo, so I will put that on just like the photos up top!!

Onto the MRB's.  Need to strip them for the blade handler, and the tip caps.  Insignia yellow.

r/Gy Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

  • Member since
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  • From: East Bethel, MN
Posted by midnightprowler on Thursday, December 3, 2020 4:37 PM

Looking great. 

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

Co. A, 682 Engineers, Ltchfield, MN, 1980-1986

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-54

Ask me about Speedway Decals

  • Member since
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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:59 PM

Was able to get a photo of his aircraft today in an email from him.  Great to have the reference.

Another one of his aircraft, same squadron, different deployment.

I believe this was a deployment to the island of Grenada, as you can see the American flag painted on the side of the engine cowlings.  I believe HMH-362, and HMH-461 did this for that operation.

r/Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:47 PM

Onto to my test colors for the Marine Corps green.  Being new to acrylics, I am trying Tamiya, Model Master and Valejo for the right green.

The Valejo was the best match to USMC green.  So that is the overall coat here.  Two coats of MM glosscoat and off to decaling.

All for today.  I am very pleased that the old Superscale decals I had were still viable, with out having to top coat them.  The White stenciling and colorful aircraft data are not available any longer in 1/48th scale for this kit.  Everything is either flat black or gray/gray low vis decals for these 1/48th scale kits.

In 1/72nd scale there are plenty of new run decals for CH-53A/D/E's.

 

Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:39 PM

Build update:

Put the two halves together and began the filling and sanding.

As you can see there are some overall fuselage fit issues.  A little triming and putty are required for a nice fit on this kit.

Tamiya thin prep coat, showed more areas of concern, so onto 400 - 600 grit.

more to come.

 

r/Gy Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, December 2, 2020 8:18 AM

Looks like you are off to a good start.  It should be a nice model.

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  • From: Everett, WA USA
Posted by Gunny Dan on Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:45 PM

First build pics from over the long weekend:

 

Onto the kit provided rotor head modification.  first I assembled the rotor head completely.  Then I cut the blades off at their cuffs so I could modify the piece.  Also, this makes it much easier to ship this kit once finished.

I need to finish drilling the MRH damper servicing access cover in the center of the beanie ring, with a correct size drill bit and then add the clear plexiglass cover using "Micro-Klear".. Paint it up and weather it.

Onto the fuselage, and all of its bad fit problems!!  sanding.....sanding....sanding.....still sanding....is the turkey ready?....still sanding.....

 

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

  • Member since
    August 2020
  • From: Everett, WA USA
CH-53A, HMH-362, "Ugly Angels" build
Posted by Gunny Dan on Tuesday, December 1, 2020 6:34 PM

Friends,

Onto another CH-53 build, this time I am dusting off one of my 1985 1/48th scale Revell CH-53A/D kits for a Marine Pilot.  He served in both CH-53A's and CH-53D's.  The first build I am doing for him is a CH-53A from Marine Corps Air Station New River, North Carolina, circa 1975-1980.  His first squadron he flew in was HMH-362 "Ugly Angels".

The kit:

An example of the high gloss Marine Corps green seen on this Ugly Angel bird aboard an amphibious assualt ship.

There is no detail in the old revell kit as compared to the CH-53E kit by MRC/Academy.  But I have seen some of our fellow modelers really dress this kit up with scratch built details.  I am going to build it pretty much out of the box, and detail the rotorhead as much as I dare.  The kit has two options for which CH-53 you would like to build.  A straight CH-53A, and a CH-53D, with aux tanks installed.  However the kit rotor head provided as is, an "Elastomeric Rotorhead", or "Dry Head" as we called them, meaning the sleeve and yoke assemblies were elastomeric rubber, no P2 head oil required for lubrication.  The CH-53A never was delivered with this rotor head, only an oiled "Wet Head".  So I will modify the kit part to resemble the wet head he flew.  To do that I must cut down the beanie ring that covers the MRH sleeve and spindle assemblies to better resemble the correct rotor head he wants.  You can see by the picture above how tight the rotor head cover sits down to the S&S assemblies and rotor blades.

The kit includes the GE T-64 413 engine with the engine access panels covering most of the exhaust, which was the way we had our -413 engines.  The original GE T-64 -6B engine had a more pronounced piece of the exhaust pipe sticking out of the rear of the engine more like the CH-53E does, but I am not going to tackle that in this build. The picture above reflects a -413 installed on this aircraft as you can see the access panel goes almost all the way to the rear covering the exhaust pipe, but also there is fading around the top of the cowling showing ribs through, which meant excessive heat built up here, and on all the -413, -415 engine installs on the CH-53A/D's these cowling needed constant maintenance!!

Even in its high gloss green paint job, you can see the 'ol 53 leaked oils like an old used up Chevy!!  The crewchiefs of these glossy birds used to wipe them down with MIL-H-5606 hydraulic fluid to keep them clean and somewhat shiny.  Another note on this photograph is the Tail Rotor Blades demonstrating the "Red-White-Red" paint scheme as directed by Naval Systems Command markings guidlines.  But also see that when it wore off the tail blades, it was not rapidly re-painted, but left alone.

Build pics coming.

r/Gunny Dan

GySgt Daniel Hammer

USMC (RET)

1/48th scale WWII-present modeler

 

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