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- From: Georgia
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Did all Sound Proofing have the quilted pattern? I recall some just having a smooth surface and others just the "sofa look" with buttons. . .I am not kidding.[/qoute]
All -60's have smooth sound proofing and -47's mostly do now, although you sometimes see some with a couple of quilts hanging up. I think that the sound proofing started to change in the mid 70's so check references for Hueys and -47's. Can somebody confirm this?
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Reproducing Sound-Proofing (Part Deux)
Posted by Anonymous
on Monday, August 16, 2004 8:27 PM
Eureka!
Some of the greatest inventions/ideas have come from the result of failures.
So that being said.....i made my first pull tonite using my new vacuum former (been lying around for 6 years actually) and of course it didn't go so well; pieces too close together, trying to pull too many pieces, plastic not soft enough, creases, etc., etc. (hey i had to test its limits) ![Smile [:)]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)
BUT on the bottom of this vacuum former there is a magnetized grate - so naturally when i did the pull, the plastic pulled onto the grate as well. Made a 'decent' criss-cross pattern onto the plastic which could be passable as sound-proofing. For this guage grate, it would probably be more suitable for the 1/24 scale Huey. However, i'm envisioning trying to pull super-soft .010 styrene onto a piece of metal screen to get the effect i want. I'm thinking it's fast, less time consuming, and certainly do-able.
Just thought i'd share.
Here is a pic of the sample piece from tonite's pull:
NOTE: the ridges are more diamond shape toward the top of the plastic. Hard to really tell, but you get the idea.
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July 2003
- From: Piedmont Triad, NC (USA)
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Posted by oldhooker
on Monday, August 16, 2004 11:00 PM
Wow, look's interesting for sure, and you're getting broke in real good on the Vacuformer machine!!
With all this inspiration, we should be seeing some in-progress shots before too long, shouldn't we?
Take care,
Frank
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:56 AM
Hey Frank-
Not unless you consider progress to be; put it together, take it apart - do it again/right, put it back together.
I lost all my reference material, so i'm going off of just a 'few' pics i found around the net. Not to mention, i have no 'scale' drawings either. Of course i do something and then look at the pic and discover it's not accurate or i missed something, so i have to correct it.
I'm a slooooooooow builder so be patient - i'll try to have something up this week for you to laugh, errr, look at. ![Wink [;)]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_wink.gif)
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, August 21, 2004 3:49 AM
It's funny, I remember the quilted soundproofing in the Hueys and Chinooks in the mid eighties, I even have a couple of photos that show it pretty well, but I can't recall seeing it in the Crashhawks.
Al
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January 2004
- From: Peru, IN
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Posted by leadsled
on Saturday, August 21, 2004 5:45 PM
It seems to me that approx 10 yrs or so ago there was a program called "adventures in scale modeling" or something like rthat. any way i seem to remember a segment they did on an aircraft that had the sound proofing material. i'll see if i have it on tape to see what they used for the material.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, August 21, 2004 6:01 PM
Not sure i remember that program - but keep us posted.
I vacu-formed a piece of .015 styrene over some window screen, and it turned out really well - give it a look. Sorry about the blurry pic - it was hard to hold the piece and the camera still at the same time. Going to give .010 a try next.
I'm leaning towards the .015 styrene as it gives it just enough raised detail. Since sound-proofing has subtle bumps in it - this may be the way to go.
I'll keep you posted on my .010 test.
-Jeff
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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:25 PM
Jeff,
That looks just great. Now what are you going to do about reproducing those button thingies? ![Evil [}:)]](/FSM/CS/emoticons/icon_smile_evil.gif)
Al.
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Posted by oldhooker
on Saturday, August 21, 2004 11:33 PM
I think you're onto something there, Jeff, looks good!
I remember the show "Adventures in Scale Modeling".... even the episode where they were doing a UH-1, which had some nice video sequences made from the jump seat while flying low over the tree tops!
That was a great show!
Take care,
Frank
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May 2004
- From: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Another option is to use the thin lead from the top of a wine bottle.
Step 1 - carefully cut round the top and remove the circular bit.
Step 2 - Using a corkscrew, remove the cork and drink the contents.
Step 3 - (Ususlly the next day!) Try to find the empty bottle.
Step 4 - Run a scalpel down vertically in a straight line and carefully peel off the foil.
Step 5 - Using a blunt pencil, ruler and a mouse mat, draw the lines of your chosen pattern into the foil. By using a mouse mat, the pencil will make a nice groove in the foil.
Step 6 - The finished foil can then be cut into whatever shape you need for the interior. Many helos have a set of soundproofing panels made to measure and fit round the various bits and pieces inside the aircraft.
Foil has the advantage over plastic card because it is softer and more pliable and allows you to sculpt it round the interior of the model.
Hope this helps. Now where's that corkscrew.....
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