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Conversion kit to take an AH-1W or -1T to Z standard

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Posted by LemonJello on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 8:00 AM
Maybe I'll just wait on that one then...no real hurry, just thought I'd see what was out there. Thanks!
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Posted by supercobra on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Cobrahistorian

Guys,

That's not a Z Cobra. That's the AH-1-4BW, the initial 4 bladed rotor demonstrator.




Actually the Italeri AH-1Z is much closer to an AH-1Z than the 4BW. The 4BW differed from the AH-1W in only the main rotor and the end caps on the horizontal stabilizers.

The Italeri AH-1Z sprue has a lot of items that are new to the AH-1Z and not on the 4BW, including wet stub wings, 4 bladed tailrotor, and new doghouse with APU.

Granted the Italeri kit doesn't look like the current config for the Z but it is still closer to a Z than a 4BW. Problem is the look of the Z keeps changing. Italeri did their kit when all there was were Bell drawings - and it looks like those drawings. Sicne then the larger doghouse has been added, the stabs have been moved back, the TSS was added, etc. In fact the look of the Z is still changing. The two most recent changes are a redesigned tail stnger and exhaust stacks canted 90 degrees. Don't anticipate any more significant changes but modelling a Z is a snapshot - even with current references a Z you make now might not look like the Z the fleet will get.


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Posted by LemonJello on Sunday, August 15, 2004 7:05 AM
Thanks for all the links and advice. I'm not sure if I'm up to making a scratch conversion just yet, but I know I want to so something different with one of these snakes.
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Posted by adrake2 on Sunday, August 15, 2004 2:21 AM
Jon's right. The Italeri kit is based on the AH-1-4BW prototype, not the AH-1Z. Because of that, scratchbuilding the fairing on the sail is the ONLY option. I guess Kelly didn't want to go through all of that.
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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Cobrahistorian

Guys,

That's not a Z Cobra. That's the AH-1-4BW, the initial 4 bladed rotor demonstrator.




Which one, Quirk's?

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:00 PM
Guys,

That's not a Z Cobra. That's the AH-1-4BW, the initial 4 bladed rotor demonstrator.

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Posted by albymoore on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:14 PM
Kelly Quirk-modeler extradonaire Bow [bow]

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, August 14, 2004 5:08 PM
Kelly's looks good, but is not an accurate Z model. Look at the profile of his sail and compare it to the picture below. Good effort, but I wouldn't use it for a referance.

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Posted by adrake2 on Saturday, August 14, 2004 4:25 PM
The only thing I've seen are scratchbuilt details (mostly using Whiskey model detail/update sets) and an Eduard PE set on Italeri 1/48 scale AH-1Zs. Kelly Quirk did a really good update on this model at Aircraft Resource Center.
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/
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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, August 14, 2004 1:38 PM
Found this great website from Bell Helos that has all sorts of info. http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.com/en/aircraft/military/bellAH-1Z.cfm
It also has a link to a AH-1Z pocket guide that shows all sorts of images and talks about all the upgrades. Should have all you need. Pocketguide: http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.com/en/aircraft/military/pdf/AH1Z_PG_04_web.pdf

Sounds like an intrerresting conversion. Keep us updated.

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Conversion kit to take an AH-1W or -1T to Z standard
Posted by LemonJello on Saturday, August 14, 2004 12:34 PM
Sitting here trapped in the house due to the hurricane and I was looking over the "to do" stack and this question came up.

Does anyone know of a conversion or AM set out there to take the Cobra to the Zulu standard? I've got a pair of 1/35 MRC Cobras and I wanted to make one into the newest 4 bladed version. I've got a Whiskey Cobra and the T+ version sitting here right now.

I checked Cobra's website, and they have the NTS upgrade but nothing (yet) for the Z model.

Thanks for your time.
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