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British Chinook HELP!
Posted by philp on Wednesday, April 23, 2003 5:02 PM
I am looking for pictures (preferably in color) of the British Chinook helicopters used to insert SAS teams during Desert Storm. I love that camo with the black belly and hand painted disruptive coats on top of the sand. I am also looking for decals for one of these in both 1/72nd and 1/144th scales. Anyone have extras?
Also, did these choppers have miniguns in the doors and what gun was on the back ramp? Did they carry the SAS landrovers inside or were they slung loads?
Any help greatly appreciated.
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Posted by gulfstream5 on Thursday, April 24, 2003 1:13 PM
Hi Philp, Cannot help with the SAS Landy's but the Chinook's were obviously painted in the UK Desert Pink scheme and most likely black undersides, but when I saw ZA707 EV at RAF Mildenhall the ' mottled ' paint on the fuselage sides i'm pretty sure was a very and I mean VERY dark green almost black ( one of those things you make a mental note of at the time ). This " mottle " was applied with ordinary paint brushes and looked very hap-hazard.
My photo ( at Mildenhall ) was taken from the port side and the crew door was open and had no door gun fitted and no gun mounted on the rear door.
Although at other times I have seen miniguns fitted to the front window ( starb. side ) cannot remember if i've seen one on the door, as for the ramp I have seen GPMG's in this location on a couple of times.
Hope this has been of some help, unfortunately the old grey matter fades a bit with time.

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Posted by gulfstream5 on Thursday, April 24, 2003 1:15 PM
Hi Philp, Cannot help with the SAS Landy's but the Chinook's were obviously painted in the UK Desert Pink scheme and most likely black undersides, but when I saw ZA707 EV at RAF Mildenhall the ' mottled ' paint on the fuselage sides i'm pretty sure was a very and I mean VERY dark green almost black ( one of those things you make a mental note of at the time ). This " mottle " was applied with ordinary paint brushes and looked very hap-hazard.
My photo ( at Mildenhall ) was taken from the port side and the crew door was open and had no door gun fitted and no gun mounted on the rear door.
Although at other times I have seen miniguns fitted to the front window ( starb. side ) cannot remember if i've seen one on the door, as for the ramp I have seen GPMG's in this location on a couple of times.
Hope this has been of some help, unfortunately the old grey matter fades a bit with time.

Pete
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 25, 2003 4:08 AM
try going to the source, RAF Odiham may have a website, or try 7 Squadron, I'm sure they would have one, maybe even Boeing?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 2, 2003 2:42 PM
Hello Philp,

If you look on the General Modelling Discussion section of this forum, you'll find a post entitled 'Free Online Image Gallery' , thread posted by Ron USMC.

Follow the link in his post, as I've just uploaded a picture I took of Chinook ZA707 (EV) at RAF Mildenhall in 91.

A really good reference (if you can get hold of a copy in the USA) is a UK magazine 'Model Aircraft Monthly' Volume 2, Issue 2 (February 2003) which has a 7 page photo feature on RAF Chinook colours, with about 12 shots of Desert Storm machines, in 3 or 4 different schemes. It's a back issue, but you should be able to get hold of a copy at www.sampublications.com.

Hope this is of use, but I don't envy you hand painting that colour scheme!

Cheers,

Rob Monfea.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 5, 2003 7:34 PM
Being a Land Rover fanatic I took note of as many Landies as I could in the recent war. I happened to spot an SAS Landy battlewagon rolling out of the rear end of a Chinook..
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Posted by philp on Tuesday, May 6, 2003 1:14 PM
Thanks for the help guys.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 13, 2003 8:43 PM
Hi Philp,
I may just have found what you need !!
I found this site when searching for something else. It lists aircraft/heli serial No's from the countries that took part in D/storm. Some of the entries have pics' but not all. Check the UK list, they have several pics' of 7Sqn's "night cam" Chinooks.
For all you D/storm fans, the list is fairly extensive.
IE: UK ,USA, NewZealand,France, to name a few. Not only heli's but fixed wing too. Definately one for my fav' list.
Hey! the suns out in Scotland!!
Regards.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 13, 2003 8:52 PM
DUH!!!!
It's the sun that's doing it, just not used to the stuff!!!!
The link to the above site:
http://fly.to/dstorm
If that doesn't work try:
www.modellversium.de/
Its under links, second page if I remember correctly, "Desert Storm from an air modellers view"
Do I feel stooopid or what :-)
Regards.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, June 13, 2003 10:22 PM
DUH! DUH!
Now I really do feel STOOOPID!
"Desert Storm from air modellers view", can be found under "Fan and Support Seiten" link.

Must stop these all nighters.
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Posted by gregers on Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:08 PM
Hi Philip just out of curiosity are you putting a landie in your chinook?if so which kit are you using? i am curious because like Michealvk i am a landie fanatic too and build landrover kits as well as aircraft. The only landrovers in that scale that i know of are JB models kits of a series 2 and fc101 and neither of these where usd by the SAS during desert storm (as far as i know anyway)...cheers...Gregers Cool [8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, June 23, 2003 6:28 PM
Hi Philp,
Watched a programme on tv a couple of weeks ago. Modern pilots were re-enacting the Dam Busters run. To give them some idea of what it was like from a gunners point, they flew some of them to a live firing range. The aircraft was a Chinook, commentator referred to weapons as M60. One was mounted on ramp, one out of side window, was not obvious which side.
Hope this helps.
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Posted by philp on Monday, September 8, 2003 4:57 PM
Gregers,
I found a company called Atlantis Alliance that carries 1/76 scale Rovers from two different companies, CMSC and BW. They both show multiple versions of the rover available in this scale. Don't know about their quality as there were no pictures. From what I have read, the SAS used Type 110 Rovers armed with a .50 cal mg, GPMG's, 40mm gernade launchers and/or Milan missiles.
If you are interested in doing one in 1/35, Accurate Armour has several resin kits of high quality (and high price) including a nice XD.
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