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Revell AH-1G Cobra Inquiry.

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Revell AH-1G Cobra Inquiry.
Posted by chopperfan on Monday, August 30, 2004 7:23 PM
I just need to know, with the upcoming re-release by Monogram, if the AH-1G Cobra kit is worth the trouble. I will be purchasing the Cobra Company update set but, I need any advice as to anything else that needs to be done to make it reasonable facsimile.
Also, I can't tell from the picture on the website, does the chin turret on said update come with a single minigun, minigun/grenade launcher combo or two minigun set up?
I'm sure these questions have come up before but I couldn't find anything on it.
Thanks in advance for any and all opinions and advice on this matter.

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Posted by grandadjohn on Monday, August 30, 2004 7:42 PM
If it is a re-release the chin turret comes with the 40mm/mini-gun option, the 40mm needs to be replaced.. Looks lke the stub weapons may have been replaced although if the mingun pods are the same, they need some work, too. Haven't looked at the Cobra company update but the cockpit in the original was very basic. It's been 30 years since I built the kit, so my memory is a weak. Need to line up your reference matter, check out Squadron's "Cobra Walk-Around."
You could also contact the Army Aviation Museum at "www.armyavnmuseum.org" for photo's to be sent to you or go to "www.army.mil" click on Army a-z, go to Ft. Rucker, click on it, when it comes up, click on any of tne aircraft photo's and browse around on the links provided.
Hope this helps.
John
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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Monday, August 30, 2004 8:40 PM
Went to RevellMonongram's web site, replace the rocket pads also.
John
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Monday, August 30, 2004 10:24 PM
Randie,

The Revellogram AH-1G is a reissue, but everything you need is in the Cobra Company cockpit and rocket pods sets. Also, CC just released their BRAND NEW M-35 weapons system which I have not built yet, but am dying to get my hands on. The M-35 system is a 20mm Vulcan cannon which was hung under the left wing of many Cobras from 1969 onwards.

The CC update also comes with a complete M-28 turret, so you don't have to worry abou the crappy minigun and 40mm "chunker" from the kit. I actually snagged miniguns from my UH-1C to do the twin mini's in "Heather Dawn's" turret.

Hope that helps!

"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by chopperfan on Monday, August 30, 2004 11:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Cobrahistorian

I actually snagged miniguns from my UH-1C to do the twin mini's in "Heather Dawn's" turret.

Hope that helps!




That's one that I am interested in doing.
I have seen a couple of pictures in both of the Squadron books that I have and to me it just seemed much more impressive!!
And as I have FOUR of the UH-1C kits! I might be able to "snag" a couple of mini's myself.
Thank you BOTH for your input. I plan on doing at least 2 if not more.

Randie Cowboy [C):-)]
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:15 AM
Randie,

Yeah, I like the twin-mini birds too. I've only seen one with twin 40mms and that was a stateside training bird. From what I've seen, most twin birds (but not all) had the 20mm cannon setup too. Talk about rotary-barrel hell!

"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by chopperfan on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:21 AM
When carrying the 20 mm set up. What did they carry on the opposite side?
Just curious. I have pics of them but, since my latest move I haven't gotten to my reference material boxes yet! Boohoo [BH]

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 7:14 AM
Randie,

Depended on what they were going to do with it. I've seen a few different configurations. The "super-scout" with 3 7-shot rocket pods and the 20mm; 2 7-shots outboard and a 19-shot inboard, plus the 20mm; or my personal favorite, an XM-18 minigun pod inboard on the right wing, 20mm on the left and two 7-shots outboard!

From what I've seen, the 19-shot inboard on the right wing was the most common, but by no means standard. The two pics I have of "Heather Dawn" both show her with a 19-shot inboard on the right wing.

"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by chopperfan on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 8:46 AM
The XM-18? Is this the same minigun carried by some of the A-1 Skyraiders on SAR missions? If so. Hmmmmmmmmm, shouldn't be too hard to scratch build one of those.
By the way! Whatever came of your conversion of the AH-1G to AH-1S? I think it was??
You really need to make up that conversion. I, for one, would be very, very interested in purchasing one!!! Tongue [:P]
That would give me a reason to buy more AH-1G kits!!!! Whistling [:-^]
Oh, and by the way, your book on the Cobra in Vietnam is on my birthday list!!!

Randie Cowboy [C):-)]
Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:00 AM
Randie,

Yep, same pod as the A-1. The Revell kit actually comes with two of them, although they're pretty crappy on detail. They are the correct shape, though so modifying them is pretty easy.

As for my AH-1F conversion, well, its been on hold for a while. Since I moved, all of my Cobras have been in storage. I've gotten distracted building Apaches and really need to get back to the Cobras I've got building.

I'm working on a step-by-step accurizing of the Revell Apache kit right now, but will get back to the Snakes after that!

"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 2:45 PM
Randie,
Glad to help, was going to mention Squadron's, AH-1 In Action book and (although I didn't realize it until today) Cobrahistorian's book, I have it and it will be useful.
Hope to see some picture's of your project somday.
John
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Posted by snakedriver on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 6:21 PM
If you're gonna hang that M-35 system on your "Snake" be sure to check out the tail rotor set-up of the aircraft you are modeling. Most of the cannon armed birds I saw had the "Tractor" tail rotor on the starboard side. This also requires putting some camber into the vertical fin. I noticed the Cobra Company resin set includes the beefed up structural panels for the port side fuselage.
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 11:57 PM
Hey Snakedriver,

How's that Snake you were working on coming along?
"1-6 is in hot"
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