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Chinook help..!
Posted by djmodels1999 on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 3:17 PM
I'm thinking of converting Revell's 1/144 CH-47D into the Boeing-Vertol 234 Commercial Chinook. I know of several external differences, such as the bigger side 'containers', the wider chord blades, the front u/c moved forward, the extra and different shape windows and the different nose cone. But I haven't got any decent drawings showing the extent of those modifications... How wider are the blades? How bigger are the 'containers' on the side of fuselage in particular..?

Can anyone help??
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Posted by balta1 on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:07 PM
I'm not an expert on the CH-47 but I'm sure you're going to find someone here who is.

Stir not the bitterness in the cup I have mixed for myself!

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:24 PM
I'm no Chinook expert... Oh wait, I am.... (joking)

OK, first, the containers on the side are actually the fuel tanks.

The best place I can think of right off the top of my head for you to have a look-see is www.airliners.net. Just do a photo search for CH-47. The following links are for some pics from that site.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/547903/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/546035/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/403948/L/

I don't remember the rotor blades on the commercial Chinook being larger than the current blades. If I remember correctly, the blade chord back then was 32", while the current chord is 36". I'm not sure how much of a difference that would make in the scale that you are doing.

I've got to get out of here, but I will try to have some more info for you, if Hooker06 or Old Hooker dont post something here before noon tomorrow.

Chris Ish, a CH-47 guy for longer than he thought he ever would be...
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Posted by balta1 on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:36 PM
I'm going to build the 1/72 ACH-47 from Italeri for the group build and wanted to know how accurate the kit is. Has anyone built this kit? Is there anything I should looking out for?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:33 PM
The blade chords are the same as the standard chinook. I don't have any technical drawings, but these might help as a reference:

1.2mb Download
http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/history/aircraft/Columbia/Columbia_Specs_BV234LR.pdf

http://www.chinook-helicopter.com/history/aircraft/Columbia/Columbia.html
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Thursday, September 16, 2004 1:42 AM
Hooker, that site was peachy! Thanks a LOT!

Ch47guy, thanks for the links. Nice pics!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:30 PM
This is a fun conversion! Yes I've done it. see Heli-kit .com. You already have the basic idealarger sponsons, boeing 737 style windows, reshape the front door, it's an "airstair"(a full height door with stairs) and the nose radome. Also the lower front windows need to be reshaped. I did mine with careful masking. As to reference: Squadron in Action CH-47 Chinook, and If you can find one Areofax Minigragh #27 on the Chinook. I used these to make both of my conversions. Good luck, I'd like to see your results. regards GG
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, September 17, 2004 12:30 AM
Thanks, Air5. Very useful tips!
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, September 17, 2004 1:33 AM
Air5, The pics are gorgeous. Is there any article about your conversion in any of the newsletters? I tried doing a search but got nowhere except finding a cool looking pic of a Singaporean 234..
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Posted by oldhooker on Friday, September 17, 2004 8:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by balta1

I'm going to build the 1/72 ACH-47 from Italeri for the group build and wanted to know how accurate the kit is. Has anyone built this kit? Is there anything I should looking out for?


DJ: You've got some good leads on the 234. I have a couple interior and one cut-a-way pictures from the Aerofax book, but you probably already have that reference.

balta: The instructions have a few errors on them; (1) It shows backwards installation of the ramp mounted ammo box (slopes to rear) (2) It shows armor plating installation on the fuselage under the Right side Pilots' Position (viewed as if sitting in the aircraft)... the ACH-47 had armor plates on the fuselage under the LEFT pilots position only. (3) There were five armor plates on the LEFT side of the forward pylon.. the kit has two. (4) There was an armor plate on each of the aft pylon inspection doors... the plate was on the aft part of the LEFT door, and the forward part of the RIGHT door. (5) The machine guns in the kit are .30 Cal. the ACH-47 carried .50 cal machine guns. (6) The instructions show the decal "Easy Money" going on the left side... the name went on the RIGHT side... also , the letter styles are incorrect and too big.

For about a zillion pictures of the actual ACH-47's, go to my website; "They Called Them Guns A Go-Go", http://gunsagogo.org, look in the Index menu for the link: "Pictures".

Take care,
Frank

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 17, 2004 9:13 AM
Air - what is that website again? Heli-kit.com?

I try it but it comes up as invalid. Could you post direct link?

Thanks!
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Posted by djmodels1999 on Friday, September 17, 2004 9:34 AM
Hooker,

here's the link:

http://www.5chr.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 17, 2004 10:24 AM
Thanks DJ
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Posted by balta1 on Friday, September 17, 2004 11:03 AM
Thanks for all the info oldhooker!

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