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Knighthawk and StrikeHawk
Posted by Cobrahistorian on Sunday, October 17, 2004 11:14 PM
Hey all,

Just wondering, does anyone know the interior differences with the two new MH-60s (MH-60R/S) the Navy is operating? I'm considering building my 1/35 UH-60L as one of them, just for a change of pace.

"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 9:40 PM
No, but I am courious, are these going to be special ops birds?
John
Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 10:58 PM
Apparently they are the Navy's newest Spec Ops helos. The MH-60R Knighthawk and MH-60S Strikehawk. Interestingly, the MH-60S landing gear is set up like a conventional Blackhawk's. It doesn't look like either bird has sonobuoys or anything like that, but I don't have any interior information. I'm doing a little online research now to see what I can find.

"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by Chief Snake on Tuesday, October 19, 2004 11:07 PM
The MH-60R is a combination of SH-60B/F and HH-60H. The MH-60S is the replacement for the CH-46 and is made from the same design as Army UH-60s.

Chief Snake
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Posted by Par429 on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:31 AM
Hi
Both the Romeo and Sierra are multi-mission helos, not just Spec Ops, so the interior configuration will change according to the mission. Since the Romeo will replace the B/F, it does have a sonobouy launcher similar to the F. Although it has been moved outboard a couple inches to make room for the dipping sonar. So the sono launcher is not flush with the exterior skin. Cobrahistorian, I have been considering the same project, so please post some updates if you decide to do it.

Phil
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:53 AM
Phil,

Firstly, Sign - Welcome [#welcome] We've got quite the forum going here.

I'm contemplating the Sierra model. Seems to be a rather straightforward conversion. I will most likely do it in December after my Apaches book is done and the semester is finished, so I'll keep everyone postedon the developments... is it too late to get in on the GB?.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 31, 2004 6:44 AM
I'm still waiting for a model of the MH-60S/R to hit the shelf myself. Going with the "Lima" model is a safe bet due to airframe duplication. But with the MH-60S and MH-60R, as far as the cockpit differences are concerned they do not differ very much from what I have seen first hand. They both incorporate "glass cockpit design" with digital multi-purpose display modes. Several analog gauges as back-up and slight differences in center console components. Cyclic and collective are essentially the same as well. I am presntly a Navy UH-3H Sea King pilot in Norfolk that will be transitioning to the MH-60S Knighthawk in 2 months in San Diego.
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Posted by chopperfan on Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:53 AM
Welcome aboard JJHangs10.
We will be looking forward to your builds and any info you may be able to share.
And hey Jon! If I can gather enough good reference pictures, I may get involved in the Attack Helo group build. Need some motivation to start converting one of my MRC 1/35 UH-1Cs to a Marine "E" with a TAT-101 turret.
Not a lot of external differences but, I have not got into that much of a conversion yet. A little bit of cutting, a little scratch building and a LOT of hoping I don't cut too much!!!
Randie [C):-)]Agape Models Without them? The men on the ground would have to work a lot harder. You can help. Please keep 'em flying! http://www.airtanker.com/
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 7, 2004 10:39 PM
The MH-60R will start hitting the Fleet in a couple years. The Navy has recently retired the CH/HH-46D from their inventory and have replaced the HC Squadrons with MH-60S. Only the USMC are flying Phrogs now. When both MH-60 variants are in the Fleet, the Navy will re-designate/re-align their HS/HC/HSL squadrons.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 8, 2004 1:54 PM
The Navy currently has plans to revamp its helo usage to include more ground attack and spec-ops roles. There are still several versions of the plan floating around, but basically there are, at present, 3 types of squadrons that fly six different aircraft. They are going to 2 different a/c (SH-60S and MH-60R) and 2 types of squadrons. Some of the HCs are combining with HSs, while some of the HSLs are combining with the HSs. The HC/HS's will be going to Sierras while the HSL/HS's will be getting the Romeos. The HC/HS's will take up the duties of starboard-d, vertrep (which has been outsourced to civilian contractors to some degree), and the like, while the HSL/HS's will take on a more strike-oriented role. It still hasn't been finalized, as the Romeo is still being tested. The Sierras are out there currently in some of the HCs.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 7:54 AM
All HC squadrons have MH-60S with a spattering of UH-3s.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 11:45 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Dragonfire

All HC squadrons have MH-60S with a spattering of UH-3s.


There's actually one HC squadron in Sigonella that flies MH-53Es -- HC-4, but yes, the overwhelming majority have already transitioned to Sierras.

/have a lot of Navy helo bubba friends
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