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In flight refueling?
Posted by DAVEY5 on Saturday, December 25, 2004 8:30 PM
Happy holidays to all.I hope everyone got the toys they asked for,I should of ashed for a writing and spelling lesson as you can tell.
Anyway I was wondering if in the real world there is or was a refueling
of rotor craft by a jet powered fixed wing,or the other way around.I don't think
that's posible but what do I know. Thanks for your help and have a great
holiday and year.......................The best to all
DHI 69@aol.com
Davey5
To fly is great To hover is divine ...........
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, December 25, 2004 8:37 PM
I have seen and heard of helicopters being refueled by C-130's.

But I am sure that shortly more knowledgable people will be around to answer your question.
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Posted by albymoore on Saturday, December 25, 2004 9:16 PM
Ditto on the C-130. Helicopters fly too slow to be refueled by jet powered tankers.

"I know what it wants now...the void has swallowed the light and the machine wants my soul"

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Posted by yardbird78 on Saturday, December 25, 2004 9:21 PM
The US Air Force and US Marine Corps both fly tanker versions of the C-130 Hercules. Most helicopters have a top speed of around 130 to 150 knots with one or two like the Marines CH-53E being able to get up to around 200. The stall speed of a fully loaded KC-135 or KC-10 is in the high 100s or low 200s. You don't want to fly a fully loaded multi-engine jet anywhere near stall speed. Alien [alien]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 26, 2004 3:45 PM
Ditto with Yardbird.Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Here are some links to pics...

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/rh-53d-DN-SC-82-04933.jpg

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/kc-130-ch53.jpg

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/hh-60-3-onw.jpg

http://www.aircav.com/dodphoto/dod00/mh53-015.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/mh-47_003.jpg
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Posted by dkmacin on Monday, December 27, 2004 5:47 AM
Well you see it's like this. . .Some ships have turbines, (jet engines) and they can refuel helicopters in flight through what is called HIFR, Helicopter In Flight Refueling. Okay maybe you don't have the turbines engaged when you do this but you didn't specify they were!!
Seriously, Any ship that has the capacity to land a helo should be able to refuel it in the air.
Niether the aircrew or the ship crew like to do it, but it can be done.

Don
I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 27, 2004 3:26 PM
Don,

You're correct. I've seen some photos of Navy helos doing a "hot pit hover" in some rough seas...bottomline...you do what has to be done.
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