US 101 Wins Contract

Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 6:38 PM

Just new here but think of this,for over40 years our Royal Family have been flown around in British made copies of US choppers first the Whirlwind and then the Wessex and now chartered S76s so fair exchange now the President has a US built British design.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 3:02 PM

A lot weapons systems are made overseas by our allies. As AH1WSnake pointed out, a lot of the avionics systems were developed and made in Israel...for example, ALQ-144 system and the LITENING Pod. The AV-8B has been around for years (half the fuselage was actually built in the UK) and may be a pain in the butt to support during peacetime but is an excellent weapons platform during combat ops. Comparing MC/FMC rates during OIF I, the Harriers had better readiness than USMC Hornet squadrons. Bottomline, the military chose the design and I'm positive that it'll be safe for our President.

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MCS15

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January 2005

Posted by MCS15 on Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:48 PM

I believe the idea of a VH-53 was kicked around years ago, but, was shot down due to the fact that it was too just big to land at the White House. Which is also the reason one won't see a VH-22 as well.

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albymoore

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Posted by albymoore on Sunday, January 30, 2005 12:48 PM

Ok, what does that say about the Harrier? It is a foreign designed airplane that has found a nice niche with the USMC. Also, the USCG flys three types of foreign designed aircraft; the French Falcon, AS 365 (HH-65) and Agusta A.109 (MH-68 Stingray). The US-101 isn't setting any kind of precedent here. My opinion, doesn't make a hill of beans whether our armed services use them or tote the CiC to his official shin-digs. As long as it's safe, gets the job done and won't eat up a Godly amount in tax dollars to maintain it, big deal if it is Foreign designed. Besides everyone keeps missing the point that some of the US-101 will be produced here.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 11:22 AM

yeah I like the idea of the Marine One 53E.... That would be awesome. I dont know much about the competition, but come on people, this is te president of the united states own private helicopter, its based on another countries design??? What type of idea is this going to give people in othwer countries?"Well americans make so much crap that the president wont even ride in a helo designed in his own country" but oh well, thats bean counters for ya.
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Awood23

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From: Belgium

Posted by Awood23 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:59 PM

I think Im going to go against the grain on this one being in favor of the Lockheed design. SIde by Side comparison thiers was, IMO, the better design. I would liked to have seen a more "American made' Helo take the contract but over that I would liked to have seen a better "American Made" design. This whole idea of keeping us all american really drives me up the wall if it keep us from getting our hands on more advanced equipment. If American companies want to secure government contracts they should make a greater effort to out do the compitition and quit relying on "its American Made" to sell thier products. If you have two products of equal quality then by all means buy american but dont use it to sell inferior equipment.

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AH1Wsnake

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Posted by AH1Wsnake on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:53 PM

How about a Marine One V-22 someday? (far away......)

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ridleusmc

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July 2003
From: Cincinnati, Ohio

Posted by ridleusmc on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:27 PM

I know 53E's are 20 years old or better, but I haven't seen any foreign built parts on ours. Here's an idea, Marine One CH-53E. HMX already has em'. Why bother with the little boys. I know, they probably couldn't fit on the White House lawn.

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Trigger

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From: Moooooon River!

Posted by Trigger on Saturday, January 29, 2005 3:34 PM

Been working on a USAF SAR version

Will be 106th RQS when completed

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AH1Wsnake

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From: Modeling anything with "MARINES" on the side.

Posted by AH1Wsnake on Saturday, January 29, 2005 3:31 PM

It's hard to find anything built entirely in the US these days I guess. Even our beloved Supercobra -- the brains of the weapons systems are designed and manufactured in Israel. We once got the wrong version of a multi-function display......we knew we had a problem when all of the diagnostic menus were coming up on screen written in Hebrew!

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 12:16 PM

Someone at PAX River thought the US 101 was the better airframe. Let's see what the future brings...in kits. Big Smile [:D]

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MCS15

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January 2005

Posted by MCS15 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 11:27 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by stealthdrake

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

Too bad, I like the S-92 better, plus it is an all-US design. Oh well, we will see how it turns out.

You might want to take a closer look at that. There is a lot more foreign content and design in the S-92 than has been widely advertised.

Yes, there is foreign content in the S-92, something that the company has never hid. That was not the case with the VH.

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HeavyArty

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From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:28 AM

Artist concept of new Marine One, US 101:

Someone over at HeliKit news has already built a model of one too, using a 1/72 Revell British Merlin model.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:50 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by grandadjohn

Should have been a US built bird.

It will be built in the US. In Texas as a matter of fact.

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grandadjohn

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Posted by grandadjohn on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:28 AM

Should have been a US built bird. Only picture I have

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:17 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by HeavyArty

Too bad, I like the S-92 better, plus it is an all-US design. Oh well, we will see how it turns out.

You might want to take a closer look at that. There is a lot more foreign content and design in the S-92 than has been widely advertised.

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LemonJello

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From: Green Lantern Corps HQ on Oa

Posted by LemonJello on Saturday, January 29, 2005 6:24 AM

Plus, they can always say, "It's for the President." That probably does a lot to grease the skids on purchases.

Anybody got pictures of the new bird?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 3:02 AM

Yeah...that Priority 01 does come in handy... Big Smile [:D]

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ridleusmc

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From: Cincinnati, Ohio

Posted by ridleusmc on Saturday, January 29, 2005 1:47 AM

haha, HMX won't have any problems. It's HMX.

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AH1Wsnake

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Posted by AH1Wsnake on Saturday, January 29, 2005 1:01 AM

Those poor guys at HMX-1......another type/model/series A/C for them to maintain, lol.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 9:39 PM

After working with Harriers, I know how difficult it can be in getting parts sourced from foreign vendors (BAe), but they'll make it work somehow. HMX-1 always gets what it needs.

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ridleusmc

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July 2003
From: Cincinnati, Ohio

Posted by ridleusmc on Friday, January 28, 2005 9:34 PM

Yeah, that stinks. I was lucky enough to visit the Sikorsky plant in Stratford, Cn. and those people were very nice. I think alot was running on that contract. I hope nobody loses their job. Sikorsky has always made some awesome aircraft. The policy makers may have dropped the ball on that one.

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HeavyArty

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From: Valrico, FL

Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, January 28, 2005 7:39 PM

Too bad, I like the S-92 better, plus it is an all-US design. Oh well, we will see how it turns out.

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Anonymous

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US 101 Wins Contract

Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 6:38 PM

Looks like the new Presidential Helo will be a version of the US101. Lockheed/Martin won the contract over Sikorsky's S-92.

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