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Aussie Helo Crashes!!

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Posted by oldhooker on Monday, April 4, 2005 8:56 AM
It's cool Chris, Smile [:)], I like people telling it like it is; I agree with you 100%!

Take good care,
Frank

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, April 4, 2005 7:26 AM
Well Mike. Its a sad world we live in.. Its even sadder to think that the days of thinking that countries like Indonesia and the like will ever change.. They wont, and as has been seen, its the poor little guy that gets shafted.. Anyways, good to hear from you.. Duke. I am happy that you were able to get what I was refering.. Its hard to express what I really want to say, without being taken out of context.. So thanks for understanding.. Frank, I kinda kept it civil, and didnt want to get over excited with my thoughts. hehehe. But I think you get the idea! :-)

Chris in Japan

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Posted by madmike on Monday, April 4, 2005 6:04 AM
Chris

I tend to agree with you mate, the HMAS Kanimbla was on her way home, a job well done in Bande Aceh.

It staggers me that not so long after the Tsunami, I read that Indonesia is purchasing large naval vessels. Is this reliance on Australian goodwill allowing our northern neighbour to purchase more modern military equipment?

One thing Chris, thank God we are not stooping to the levels of a$$ licking and pandering that Hawke and Keating undertook during the eighties and early nineties.

Now don't get me wrong, I am proud that our country has come to the rescue of our northern neighbours people. So typical of Australians in general. But when I hear what the Indonesian military are planning to purchase and the threats that JI have made to our aid workers and UNARMED military support personnel, it gets my blood running hot!

My deepest sympathies and condolences to the families and friends of those who paid the ultimate price, helping their fellow man. You are all true heroes in my book!

cheers

Mike
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei
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Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, April 4, 2005 1:45 AM
Chris, I agree 100%. You put the message across well with out disrespecting the poor people who are suffering the most, or the military personell who were doing their jobs. I say it was very well spoken.

My prayers go out to those who lost their lives and to their families left behind.
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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Monday, April 4, 2005 1:09 AM
hehehe, yeah sorry about that Frank!

Chris in Japan

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Posted by oldhooker on Monday, April 4, 2005 12:52 AM

"Silence broke one misty morn,
the Eagle's wings all marred and torn.
His body breaks the grassy sod,
and returns the Eagle's soul to God."

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Hey Chris, you're going to have to stop beating around the bush and tell us how you REALLY feel? Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]Smile [:)] Thank you for your post. Smile [:)]

Take care,
Frank

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Sunday, April 3, 2005 10:25 PM
I just re-read what I wrote.. And must admitt that I wrote it apon hearing the news.. I am sorry to have saddened the post with such a blast.. Please forgive me gents, and ladies!

Chris in Japan

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Posted by Chris_in_Japan on Sunday, April 3, 2005 6:30 PM
Yes, the whole issue of assistance has been a sore point during family disscussions while I as in Australia.. I heard the news, early yesterday morning while preparing to return home to Japan.. I was saddened by the news and was angered in the fact that although our country can be proud to be a servant of the needy, it simply has to question reasons for being there!.. Indonesia on the other hand has become so reliant on other countries for assistance that it gives me reason that this is indeed a country that has its priorities in the wrong place..

Not only did Australia help assist with relief aid, inferstructure, food, and logistics. But it also contributed a total figure of 1billion dollars!.. A large amount of money for a country with the population of Australia!... This is not the only time that Australia has opened its wallet. For generations, Australia has been assisting Indonesia with aid and assistance..

In saying this, Australia has asked for nothing in return. Rather we have had to deal with grumpy cousin's such as Indonesia, as over the years we have seen a country that has been unstable not only to our own country, but through corruption and disspute within its own borders!.. Any aid that has been given has never really helped those who have needed it, and it has often founds its way into the coffers of the military and corrupt!

In the wake of the boxing day tsunami, and then again the recent earthquake. One can only feel saddened for the people of this area!.. Being able to help is an instinct in all of us!.. But in saying this. Our help can not be one of lost promiss.. Countries such as Indonesia should be made accountable for its innability to provide proper inferstructure, security and safety to its own people.. The money's donated should have been set asside for not only rebuilding, but also the creation of inferstructure in order to respond to such events.. As a little side note.. In 1988. The city of Newcastle, just north of Sydney suffered a major earthquake.. Loss of life, buildings leveled. . Indonesia offered no assistance!.. Australian bush fires.. Mass home and property loss, loss of life.. Indonesia offered no assistance.. Cyclone Tracey, leveled the whole city of Darwin. Indonesia offered no assistance.

I know that I am being rather grim in my writings here. But I am writing in order to get people to stop thinking of things on a level of sadness and grief. And rather get everyone to start thinking about accountability.. It is time that these countries, rich or poor, are made accountable for thier own actions.. Even though we cant stand and watch another human being suffer. Then it is our duty to make these countries stand up and accept responsability for its own people, and to put their priorities in the right place!.. I am sick of seeing wealthy politicians in poor countries.. And I am tired of seeing everyday Australian battlers taking a few needed dollars out of their own pockets to make sure that an Indonesian cousin gets assistance that should have been provided by his own country!..

It is now high time that the do-gooders of the world shut up, or put up.. Cuntries all over the world have to start making countries such as this stand up and face reality.. The days of dictatorship (as in N Korea) and corruption (Indonesia) are gone.. There is simply no place in the world for it anymore!.. Fundamentalism (In any religion) is old hat now, and so we should all start the walk together, and not against each other!

Please dont feel for one minute that I am trying to send out a right winged tone of hating the world.. But I feel for the families of those Australian service men and or women that lost their lives, doing what their countries had asked them to do!..

I am proud of them, and hope thier families nothing but love and strength for the upcomming times.. My point is, that if Indonesia had its priorities right.. Then our men and women should never have been there!.. As they were doing what most Australians would (Helping). Then all I can do is thank them for thier valuable service!...I just wish that things were different, and that it is never easy to lose a loved one.. Their country will never forget!

Lest we forget....

Chris in Japan

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, April 3, 2005 1:59 PM
God Speed to them as they pull pitch for their final flight. May their families be wrapped in the wings of angels as well.

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Posted by grandadjohn on Sunday, April 3, 2005 1:53 PM
Best wishes for thier families
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 2, 2005 6:37 PM
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Aussie Helo Crashes!!
Posted by wooty on Saturday, April 2, 2005 6:35 PM
Last night an Aussie Helo, a Sea King, crashed on a remote island near Indonesia. Nine service members were killed including 5 navy, 3 airforce and 1 army. Just a grimm reminder that proves that you dont have to be in battle to die for your country. They were apart of a search and rescue team in Indonesia after the recent earthquaks.
Lest We Forget
Robert

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