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MRC/Academy 1/35 UH-1C Huey "FROG"

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MRC/Academy 1/35 UH-1C Huey "FROG"
Posted by wooty on Sunday, May 01, 2005 3:22 AM



Hey Just got a kit of the above and was wondering if anybody has built it and if they had some pics of their builds. The only thing i dont like about the whole helo is the turrent on the front/nose. Arround what timeframe did they start using the turrent in the Vietnam conflict?
Cheers
RobertBig Smile [:D]

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Posted by grandadjohn on Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:49 AM
It was developed in 1962 by the Springfield Armory with delivery starting in 1966 from the prime contactor General Electric
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Posted by wooty on Sunday, May 01, 2005 3:28 PM
One more thing fellas?
Does anyone have the instructions for how to assemble the minniguns on this beast.
I notice the minniguns come in this kit and i personally think they are a better option.
If anyone out there has the instruction for assembley of the guns i would like to have a peep at them???
Thanks You Kindley
Robert

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Posted by grandadjohn on Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:59 PM
Robet
check your e-mail and let me know if it came through alright
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Posted by wooty on Monday, May 02, 2005 4:45 AM
Hey John
Nothing yet in my inbox.
Here is another email address
wottywoot@hotmail.com
It would be good if it works because i really want to set the miniguns up on the Huey
Thanks Very Much
Robert

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Posted by grandadjohn on Monday, May 02, 2005 11:36 AM
Robert
will try again
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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, May 02, 2005 1:26 PM
so you aren't the only one who wants to build the Heavy Hog UH-1C. LOL your going to need to cram the 7.62 mini gun ammo crate in with the 40mm ammo drum to accomplish this at least the ammo belts are flexible for this but I want to do mine with the 19 shot pod. Too bad Academy didn't release a version with the twin 60 turret on each side now that would be a cool bird

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Posted by wooty on Monday, May 02, 2005 2:26 PM
Hey Jonh!!
Nothing yet.
Mike , no need for me to put the 40mm ammo drum in as the bird i am building diddnt carry the "Thumper"
Thanks Again
Robert

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Posted by grandadjohn on Monday, May 02, 2005 6:39 PM
Robert
sent you an e-mail outlining the problem I had, please advise
Mikeym
HUEY's never carried both mini-guns and 40mm and rockets, toooo much weight, standard configuations were either two mini-guns and two 7-shot rocket pods or the 40mm and two 19-shot rocket pods. Even then they did not always carry a full ammo load and still they had to make running starts down the runway to get airborn
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Posted by wooty on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:54 AM
Hey John,
Got your email with instructions attached,
only one thing though? These instructions you gave me are for the main rotor assembly and cabin area.
I was chasing the assembley instructions for the actual armament area and for the miniguns assembly. Is there a section on your instruction sheet outlining this?
If so could you try again to send this part of the insrtuctions to me?
Sorry for the inconvinence..
Thanks Again
Robert

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Posted by wooty on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:53 AM
Hey Mike,
Here is a pic of Shark #170 "Ace Of Spades"
This is the Helo i am trying to represent



Thats what mine will look lik!!!!!!!!
Well lets hope so?
Cyas
Robert

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:30 AM
So here's the question!

Is the MRC/Academy the same as the "Seminar" model kit of the UH-1B/C??

It has both tails, both horizontal stabs, but only the fairing for the C.

It has Miniguns and 4 crew figures (Without body armor).

I'd like to build a Royal Norwegian AF UH-1B, but may have some trouble.

You guys that worked them, that semicircular fairing on the left side of the Main Transmission, is that for the second Hyd pump on the C??

Since I won't need it on the B I mean...
Lots of questions, and so few answers!.
I love the kit anyways, looking forward to receiving the Eduard parts for it as well, just hope it is the new style eduard, not the old...

Cheers
Shark-41Wink [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:34 AM
And another one, the Rotor head, sure looks like the old style to me??

The decals are the same as the ones on Wooty's picture.

I gather that this is the model that Cobracompany has the rotor head modification for?

Also, am looking for the seats WITHOUT armorplating, as the Norgies never had those...
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Posted by HeavyArty on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:34 AM
Definitely not the same kit. I have built a Seminar UH-1C and it is less detailed and parts are not as finely molded. The Academy kits are much better.
MRC/Academy's is a C model, it does not come with B model parts. Cobra Company's set is to backdate it to a B model with new tail, blades, horizontal stabs, instrument panel, and some other bits. I belioeve the CC set has unarmored seats too.


Academy kit does come with 4 crewmen as well, all wearing "Chicken Plate" armor. Academy's has the armored seats too. The only kit I know of without armored seats is the Revell 1/32 UH-1D/H model. I would start with one of the Academy kits and backdate it using the CC set and seats from Revell kit if CC ones are not correct.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:39 AM
Thanks!!
May just try to "fix the seats" myself, using the Panda 212 seats.

By the looks of it, my "seminar" model is that of a UH-1B/C but having the older rotor system as opposed to the "door-hinge" 540 system. This will make it easier, now all i need is a good photo of the left hand transmission cowlingof both a B and a C to make sure what details are needed.

Looking at MRC's website, it looked like the Academy one has the EAPS system, while the "Seminar" does not.

Cheers anywho!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:33 PM
John,

You sure that Heavy Hogs didn't fly with miniguns, rockets AND the chunker? I seem to remember seeing pics of some fitted out like that. Of course, takeoff and landing would be a royal pain and you probably had to decide between full fuel or full ammo, but I could've sworn I've seen em with 7-shot pods, miniguns and the chunker...

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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:55 PM
Jon
I have never seen any pictures of this armament arrangement and our unit never used that arrangement. Our birds used those two arrangements I outlined above plus the M-22 subsystem(carring the SS-11 missle). We had three gunship platoons each with 7 HUEY's, 3 with 40mm and rockets, 3 with mini-guns and rockets and 1 with the missiles. Huey's were a mix of Charlie and Mike models.
In addition we had a scout platoon with six OH-6A's and 2 UH-1H, one assigned to company HQ and one to the maint. platoon.
If you find any pictures with that arrangement let me know. I doubt any did because of weight problems. The 40mm turret with gun weighted 98lbs alone
Robert
I sent the page you wanted(I think) let me know
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:09 PM
Roger that!

I don't doubt it either. I've heard all the issues with density altitude in Vietnam. Something's just telling me I've seen it before. Gonna have to go through all of my photos to prove myself wrong. Besides, I'd rather have the twin miniguns any day!

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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:14 PM
If you find it let me know, I would like to see it and I also preferred the mini-guns myself never though the 40mm was that great of a weapon
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Posted by wooty on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:12 PM
Thanks John,,
Recieved them this morning!!!
Spot on this time ..... exactly what i neded!!
Thanks and if there is ever anything i can do in the future....just let me know
C'ya
Robert

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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:59 PM
Robert
glad you got it
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Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 6:42 PM
LOL the HUEY Frog that I have is from the Sharks and it does have Ace of Spades and Surfer Girl markings.

Wooty that definitely is the same bird that is modeled in my Academy Huey Frog kit what you have is the Heavy Frog kit if it is supposed to have the box style rocket pods attached

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Posted by Melgyver on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 7:33 PM
John is correct about the UH-1C not carrying the 40 mm, and mini-gun systems, plus 7 shot rocket pods or 19 shot pods. It couldn't get off the ground with all that weight with ammo unless it was single pilot and 10 minutes of fuel. Plus I don't think you could have all different armament control boxes mounted. The wiring would all be there but each system used different control heads and sights. I also don't know for sure if all UH-1C's had the nose "hard" points and extra bracing in the chin bubble for the 40 MM system. Those of you making the "Ace of Spades" and "Surfer" check out the 174th AHC's Web page. www.174ahc.org Under 1971 there is a story, "Rescue of Surfer's Crew" which shows the aircrews deication to each other's survival. Bruce Marshall was reunited with 3 of the Medevac crewmembers that rescued him at our 2003 Reunion.

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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:18 PM
mikeym please check your reference photo's for which rocket pod to use, the box style were discounted in use and replaced by the 19-shot pod which became standard in 1967
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:10 PM
I did one of these a while ago as part of my fascination with the Huey. I wasn't very pleased and found the kit had a bit of a weird fit with the grenade launcher.

As well - I tried to figure how to mount the machine guns but couldn't figure out how - alas I will be working on another one, just not the version by Academy.
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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 3:17 PM
The markings provided for "Ace of Spades" are also incorrect. The aces each had an A in the corner, as a card would. I'm not sure if MRC has changed it, but the decals I got with the kit don't have em. Also, the kit says to use rockets and the chunker, Ace of Spades had miniguns as you can see in the photos already posted.
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Posted by Melgyver on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:38 PM
Jon,

The first Ace of Spades "170" doen't appear to have the "A" in the corners. I can't find a picture of it with the "A". However after it was shot down in during Lam Son 719 aircraft "470" was renamed Ace of Spades and it could have had the "A" in the corners. I don't have my picture ablums back from our Asst. Web "master" who was copying them to disk. I have a shot of the 2nd Ace of Spades and can verify the "A" or lack of on it when I get them back. "170" was armed with the mini-gun and 7 shot rocket pods. Surfer was armed with the 40 mm and 7 shot rocket pods prior to it being shot down.
I'm going to have our #1 Fan Club and Curator of the Offical 174th AHC Museum check on this and verify the "A" on the Ace of Spades or lack there of!

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 9:45 PM
Mel,

Fantastic! I knew 170 was shot down during Lam Son 719, but wasn't aware there was a second one. I'll have to dig out some of the photos I have of her on CD to confirm the A's on 170. I'm pretty sure I saw her on the cover of a magazine a few years ago and it was 170. The A's were present IIRC.

Yet another thing for me to research! Wink [;)]
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Posted by Melgyver on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:23 PM
Jon,

170 was on the cover of the 1996 VHPA Directory. You can't tell if there are "A's" in the corners or not. I'll check with Warren Hewetson. He was supposed to put my picture albums in the mail this week. I could be wrong! Wouldn't be the first time and won't be the last! The supremem authortiy on this would have been Fred Thompson who unfortunately is no longer with us. We miss Fred dearly!

Clear Left!

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Posted by wooty on Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:29 AM
Hey All!!!!
When you guys built this kit can any of yous remember if ya had any trouble fitting the front windshield?
Also the two front doors are a very tight fit aswell!!! Do i have the option of open or closed? Because the way they now it seems like the only option is closed.?
Hmmmm
Thanks Robert

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