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Cobrahistorian at Warrior Forge
Posted by MBT70 on Friday, June 17, 2005 5:56 PM
I just finished an interview with our own Jonathon Bernstein (Cobrahistorian) who is here at Fort Lewis finishing his training to become an Army Officer and Apache pilot. I'll post my article here once it's written along with some photos of our intrepid warrior going about the task of soldierization. Let's all give him our best as he embarks upon 33 days of hardcore training.

More to come later .....
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Posted by grandadjohn on Friday, June 17, 2005 8:24 PM
Will wait for your posts, please give Jon our best
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Posted by supercobra on Saturday, June 18, 2005 12:30 AM
33 days of hardcore training? Is that the total time for both courses? That seems a little excessive to make an Army officer and an Apache pilot. I'm assuming that there is probably at least a week of leave in between the Army officer training and the Apache pilot training that is included in those 33 days?
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Posted by Trigger on Saturday, June 18, 2005 6:37 AM
Supercobra
No, Warrior Forge does not include flight training. It's training for ROTC cadets and ARNG Officer Cadidates that incorporates a wide range of subjects designed to develop and evaluate leadership ability. Training/Eval subjects include APFT / Combatives, Land Navigation, Basic Rifle Marksmanship, Confidence Training, First Aid Training, Individual Tactical Training, Fire Support, Security Operations, Hand Grenade, Field Leader's Reaction Course, Squad Situational Training Exercises & Patrolling. At the end of this he'll be commisioned as a 2nd Lt. and then he'll report to Ft. Rucker in Sept/October for flight training which will take about a year if I remember correctly (BTW - I know we've got a few Army Aviation dudes here so if I'm incorrect on something, don't hesitate to call me out on it)

MBT70
Thank you for sharing that with us. Can you relay the following message for me please?
"Yo GQ! I checked the Book of Armaments and when you're chuckin' grenades, don't forget three is the number of the count - no more, no less! Good luck at Ft. Lewis, and we'll catch ya on the flip side!
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Posted by MBT70 on Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:35 AM
Roger that, Trig,
Our man has already been through Basic training as an enlisted troop, then through AIT for MOS schooling. When he elected to become and officer, he went into a program which allowed him to serve at his unit and also go to college as an ROTC cadet and complete his degree. Jon said he has his four years and will commission at the end of Warrior Forge, which is the final training just to be an officer. So you see, he's already a cog in the green machine, but still has flight school and Apache transition in front of him.
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Posted by midnightprowler on Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:50 AM
Please give my best to Jonathan, and a salute please.

Hi, I am Lee, I am a plastiholic.

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Posted by MBT70 on Saturday, June 18, 2005 4:46 PM
Here's our man Jonny at the head of his squad ......

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Posted by grandadjohn on Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:25 PM
He even looks like a soldier
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Posted by albymoore on Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:34 PM
Thanks for sharing the pic and best of luck to Jon!

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Posted by Trigger on Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:50 AM
Nice pic MBT70, thanks for sharing. How's the weather up there?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, June 19, 2005 12:51 PM
Supercobra..sounds kind of like TBS Sir.
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Posted by MBT70 on Sunday, June 19, 2005 3:57 PM
Chili today ... hot tamale ...
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:20 AM
I can personally say I've trained with this knucklehead, and you'll never have a finer guy watching your back. Jon is like a brother to me, and he's been chasing this dream for as long as I've known him (10 years now). Back in the days of our WW2 reenacting unit (he led the 1st SSF and I the 44th Recon), we'd terrorize the German units with 3am raids on camps, hostages, all sorts of nasty stuff that reenactors don't expect during a tactical. Our units worked well together as a team and we quickly became the scourge of the German reenactors...at some events they had "bounties" on our heads for our capture (usually in the form of beer rations). All kidding aside, he was a fine soldier going in, and he'll be an even better one coming out...

Pass on a message to him for me...tell him I'm holding on to his airbrush until he gets a permanent address again!!!

Regards,

Jeff Herne
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Posted by supercobra on Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Devildog1rh

Supercobra..sounds kind of like TBS Sir.


I suspected it was something like that but I couldn't pass up the opportunity for some good nature ribbing of our Army breathren. He'll have to change his handle to Apachehistorian. Too bad he's a few years too late for the Army Cobras. If he would have went Marine Corps he could've flown Cobras for the next 30 years. I'm sure after the Zulu and Yankees are worn out we will be looking at H-1.1s.

Actually more like the Marine Corps OCS than TBS. OCS is 10-12 weeks and then you go to TBS which is another 6 months.

If you are reading this Jon, good luck!
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Posted by MBT70 on Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:07 PM
The Cobra is such a good airframe that 30 years from now it will be AH-1Z.3.0.5, Version 8. BTW - is that the 680 rotorhead they have on Zulu now?
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:40 PM
Actually, for those that didn't know, Jon is the author of the Osprey book on Cobra Operations in Vietnam. I also hired him to assist in the restoration of my former museum's AH-1 'Heather Dawn'. I guess that would qualify him as a historian...

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Posted by Trigger on Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:55 PM
About a year ago when the Comanche was canceled, Jon and I were BSing on the boards here about the Army adopting Zulus for the armed recce role instead. "RAH-1A" was a designation we were tossing around.

Good luck Jon!
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Posted by MBT70 on Friday, June 24, 2005 9:39 AM
When I was writing my book about Cobras, years ago, I sent an idea I had about upgrading Army Cobras to "AH-1Z" to my Congressman, Norm Dicks. The idea was to "Navalize" their airframes to an AH-1T configuration (Whiskey was just being tested at the time) and adding Army bells and whistles for mission configuration. The plan would save billions over Apache acquistion and give the Army a top-drawer attack chopper to boot. I also sent a copy of the idea to Bell/Textron. Dicks liked the idea and staffed it for committee consideration, where it was well-received. But once the idea came to the attention of Army brass, they killed it and said they were fielding the Apache ... case closed. That's just an interesting anecdote now, and I doubt my little white-paper packet had much influence on events in the long run, but I have watched the whole scenario play out with a great deal of interest.
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Posted by Jeff Herne on Friday, June 24, 2005 9:48 AM
So much for your ten minutes of fame, eh? So much for Army logic...We could be calling you the 'father of Cobra Zulu' right now... :-)

Not quite as impressive as the 'Father of the Nuclear Navy' (Adm. Rickover) but it would still warrant a few beers in the OC.

Jeff
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Posted by MBT70 on Friday, June 24, 2005 10:54 PM
Roger that. Speaking of fathers ... the Chaplain out here has an inspirational thought to cloese each morning briefing. I got a chuckle today, though ... he said "When life knocks you to your knees, you are in a good position to pray," to which I added, "yeah, and it's a stable firing position, too!" Only the Chaplain didn't laugh.
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Posted by privateer17 on Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:43 AM
I guess that would explain why I haven't seen him on yahoo lately. I helped Jon out with his latest book, "Apache units in OIF and OEF". I was in Balad, Iraq for all of 2004 and supplied him with a few apache photos. I have to say that after meeting him on the net and getting to know him a little bit that he will make a fine addition to the Army aviation family. Give him my best and I'll see him when he gets to Mother Rucker.

Keep the spinnin' side up and the greasy side down.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:34 PM
Ah, brings back memories of dealing w/cadidiots ooops, I mean cadets.
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Posted by Trigger on Friday, July 1, 2005 6:59 PM
MBT70, how's the article coming along?
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Posted by MBT70 on Wednesday, July 6, 2005 4:57 PM
You tell me ....

Soldier, historian, author … and a Warrior Forge cadet!
Story and photo by Bob Rosenburgh
Most cadets at Warrior Forge are embarking upon their first career in pursuit of becoming Army officers, but one 5th Regiment cadet has already made his mark in several professional fields of endeavor. As an SMP cadet from 2nd Battalion, 147th Infantry in the Texas National Guard, Cadet Jonathon Bernstein is also completing a degree in military history at Texas Tech University. Early in life, though, he developed a love of aviation. This fascination was put to use a staffer in the New Jersey Aviation Hall of Fame and Museum when he was a key member of a team restoring an Army AH-1F Cobra helicopter. He worked in several aviation museums in the east, including the National Warplane Museum and the Intrepid Museum in New York City. His fascination with flight continued to grow, so he wrote a book titled U.S. Army AH-1 Cobra Units in Vietnam (Osprey – 2003). That book, which is considered a valuable reference tool for both historical research and details for scale modelers, was such a success that Osprey commissioned him for a follow-on work, U.S. Army AH-64 Apache Units in Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. That makes Bernstein a twice-published international author, since Osprey’s titles are sold around the globe.
And now he’s well on the way to making history as well writing about it. Bernstein plans to branch Aviation and train to fly the AH-64 Apache himself, a goal which may well place him in the world’s hot spots in the near future.
“I just got my letter of acceptance to Bravo Company, 1st Battalion, 104th Attack Aviation in the Pennsylvania National Guard,” he said.
Bernstein’s successes come from setting goals and sticking to them, such as a promise to himself to get published by the time he was 30. “The Cobra book came out about two weeks before my 30th birthday,” he recalled, “so I made that goal.” And since his love of aviation focused on attack aircraft, he planned on getting that experience too, “and that’s pretty much why I’m doing what I’m doing.”
It’s a tall order, but Bernstein is no stranger to overcoming obstacles. “Writing the books was a challenge in itself,” he said, “because the Apache pilots were less accessible than the Cobra pilots were.” In fact, his first plan was a book on Huey gunships, but on contact with the publisher he found they preferred a Cobra book, so Bernstein shifted gears and jumped on the opportunity. “I got in touch with the Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association and various unit associations and from there, it just took off … literally.” He said he interviewed more than 130 pilots and crews chiefs about their experiences from 1965 through 1973. Both books are profusely illustrated with photos he was given by his contacts, Bell Helicopter, Hughes (Boeing), VHPA members and graphics by Osprey staff.
“The unit I had the most contact with was the Blue Max Aerial Rocket Artillery,” and basically I’m their unit historian now.” His next book will be the story of that unit, which evolved from the 2nd Battalion, 20th Artillery to its current designation as Charlie Company, 3rd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment. His contacts with Blue Max were what led to the Apache book.
Bernstein will be commissioned as a second lieutenant on July 16 upon completion of Warrior Forge. “From here I’ll head back to Lubbock to pack up my gear,” he said, “then head to New York for a little more than a month before reporting to Fort Rucker in October.” He said flight training will be followed by Apache transition and then he’ll be a pilot in 1/104th.
Bernstein plans to marry in August, yet another one of his many goals that will certainly end in success. Jeff Herne, who is associate editor of FineScale Modeler magazine and worked with Jonathon on a number of museum and writing projects, said, “He's one of the best I know ... I think the Army still uses the phrase 'unlimited potential'. This guy's got it.”

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Posted by Trigger on Wednesday, July 6, 2005 6:25 PM
Nice article; thanks for sharing that with us.

Historian, author, officer, pilot and just a helluva good guy...tell Jon I said he's Army Aviation's equivilant to Buckaroo Banzai.
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Posted by grandadjohn on Wednesday, July 6, 2005 7:00 PM
He's one hellva guy
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