Sikorsky, In rememberance.

)) I have Ukrainian citizenship but don't speak Ukrainian... My mom is Russian, my father is Ukrainian, most of my life I lived in Moldova, now I live in Canada, so who am I? ))) We are so mixed up there so it is really hard (even impossible) to detect who is true Ukrainian who is not... Sikorsky was RUSSIAN cuz he spoke Russian and lived in Russia before 1917. Well now it doesn't really matter))) He was very talented and gifted engineer indeed.

Andy

Yes, but I think we can all agree, he was one heck of an American!

He was a a good man

Hi,

New to the forum here.
I just saw the post regarding the late Igor Sikorsky. A man who's vision and genius served our country, & the world well through RW & FW flight in all branches of military service and civilian life. His work will live on and serve forever!

I see his S-76's just about every day. Love that machine!

Thanks Igor!
John
S-76 fan

A true innovator, that's for sure. Thank you Mr. Sikorsky!

Intruder,
Canadian, Ukrainian, Russian...you're a Conundrum! Sorry, couldn't resist the opportunity.
I'll remember to hoist one to the memory of Mr. Sikorsky at the club this evening.

I have alot of friends who insist they are/were and always will be UKRAINIAN never Russian. They were Ukrainian before 1917 and were Ukrainian after 1917.
In the short bio I read about Igor Sikorsky, it said he was Ukrainian and fled the Russian government.
But Jon's right, he was a great American. . .though he turned his rotors the opposite way.

Don

QUOTE: Originally posted by dkmacin I have alot of friends who insist they are/were and always will be UKRAINIAN never Russian. They were Ukrainian before 1917 and were Ukrainian after 1917. In the short bio I read about Igor Sikorsky, it said he was Ukrainian and fled the Russian government. But Jon's right, he was a great American. . .though he turned his rotors the opposite way. Don

LOL !!! What is all this argueing about?

I dunno... lets have another cold one in honor of old Igor!

I once had the honor of being in his office, and signing his ledger. Legend has it that pilots who try on his Fidora (hat) will never have a bad luck in a helicopter. I was happy when the pilots we were with tried on that hat, because it meant a smooth ride home (which it was). He was a great engineer, inventor, mathmatician, businessman, Ukranian, Russian, and American.

QUOTE: Originally posted by AirMedical Hi, New to the forum here. I just saw the post regarding the late Igor Sikorsky. A man who's vision and genius served our country, & the world well through RW & FW flight in all branches of military service and civilian life. His work will live on and serve forever! I see his S-76's just about every day. Love that machine! Thanks Igor! John S-76 fan

Welcome, John!
Great to see another one of those rare civil-helo-lovers!
There has been a rumour going round that Revell will come out with a 1:72 S76. I very much doubt that, realizing that Revell's civil helo-subjects are European types and the S76 has never had many miltary missions .
Here's to hoping anyway!
And ofcourse: in honor of Igor.

Gertjan

Gertjan,

I was told the same thing and was informed by Revell that it's not a concideration nor on the drawing table. That's why it's a rumor. All hear, say.

I think the project I contributed to has a better chance getting to the market first. There's been reports that they were just about finished. The first to the market would probably mean selling the most wouldn't you think?

I love the S-76!!!
Cheers,
John

I am actually a Blade Engineer on Sikorsky's S-92 Aircraft, anybody know of a model coming out? Would love to do the build.

BTW, the S76 is a great ride, have been up once. The S76D will be out in about 3 years, its sharp. They actually delivered one to an oversea's high offical that has limo noise canceling interior. very cool.

Regards,

Hello Nate,
Blade Engineer on the S92...Ahhh...: NOW I understand your reply on the EH101 thread!
Just for modelling reasons it IS a pity that the EH101 was selected over the S92: it diminishes the chances on a S92-kit. Let's hope that the S92 will find its military missions; it would become a more interesting subject for model manufacturers, who don't bring out civil helo-models too often (Revell is an exeption with their civil Eurocopter and Agusta-kits).

regards!

Gertjan

Thanks for the reply Gertjan,

As you can tell, the product is pretty close to me. Its hard working for a place like sikorsky and not having such great pride in your aircraft. I cross my fingers on for the H-92 SuperHawk, that contract would be phenomenal for the aircraft and the company, especially after the loss of Comanche, we will see, loosing the VH92 was a big blow for both military and commercial.

But seriously a 1/48th scale ship would be perfect, she is about 5-8feet longer than the black hawk, so it would make a nice model. Probably wouldn't see something like that for about 5years would be my guess

Regards

Hey guys, here's a little preview of the S-76D. Very nice!

http://www.lyntonaviation.com/content/gallery.html

Paintchips, do you get involved with the filment winding of the blades?

I actually have a couple body parts, a S-76B model (Aprrox 1/48) that was scratch vacuum-formed from an old friend of mine that was actually a personnal friend of Igor. Sadly, he past away a few years ago. He also gave me a larger Gypsum cast S-76A (Aprox 1/30) body that was somewhat not acurate. I've been trying to find the time to try and make the master blades, rotorhead, interior, and everything else for casting, but just haven't had the time. I'm also waiting forever on a vacuum former from a friend of mine that will be manufacturing table top molders for education and hobby. I wish Sikorsky had display models in the clear resin with interior then the wood stufff. Someone years ago used to make a 1/32 resin display one in 1/32 over in the UK. Wish I knew who that was.

Actually, the blades are not filament wound, some are titanium spars, others are graphite and fiberglass prepreg Filament wound spars are inferior to pre-impregnated graphite and fiberglass. the filament wound spar would need to be roughly 50% thicker and heaver to receive the same strength characteristics. Boeing uses filament winding from what i know on the apache blades (i think) the quality and structural integrity just isn't the same.

Sikorsky Actually has a few models that are 1/10, but they made them from wood, very impressive!

Wow, that's pretty impressive. One thing's for sure, Titanium isn't cheap. But the skins are composite right?

I've done filiment winding (prepreg and non-prepreg). (glass and carbon) No rotor blades though.
We had a guy who used to work with us that worked for Kman Aerospace and did the blades for the Kmax and SeaSprite and I believe they were contracted to do the blades for the MD900, Cobra and Apache. (??)
We actually did a couple test to try and be part of the now defunked Comanche program. Came close but no cigar. I would love to see them try and reserect the S-67 Blackhawk..

1/10 scale models? That would be the ones they have displayed at the shows mounted on poles I think. I've seen a couple pictures of those. They do look sharp.

One thing's for sure, too bad you guys didn't get the Marine One contract.
That was just wrong.

Thanks for the reply, nice to meet you and it's a pleasure talking with you.
Keep up the good work.
Kind regards,
John

yes skins are all fiberglass, kaman aerospace actually used wood for some of there spars, a buddy of mine use to work there. I bet our guys know each other, my guy did all the tool design for those products before leaving for SA. i believe they did the MD500 blades, i believe bell makes there own blades and ducommon makes the appache blades (bunch-o-junk) seen'em not impressed.

I would have to agree on the Marine One, its not right, with the loss of the Comanche and now the VH-92, one more loss and its going to get difficult.

John, your last name doesn't happen to be Kugal does it? And yes it is nice to meet you too.

So, what models yea building?

Paintchips,

We got to see a the beginning stages of blade construction when we visited. The Titanium spar looks alot bigger without the skin on it. I hope Sikorsky is still making 53 blades, because the stick actuators aren't perfect. Maybe you were there for family day a couple of years ago and remember a 53 that people kept asking if we brought it there to get rebuilt.

Semper Fi,
Chris

I was there for family day, they are building 53e blades as fast as they can and we are in the beginning stages of a new 53X blade... i will just leave it at that.

I believe the guys called her the hanger queen she was in there for so long

Paintchips,

Yah, I bet they do know each other. It's also a small world.

I see Sikorsky just bought Keystone Helicopters.

No, that's not my last name.

I'm currently working on the following kits in the following scheme.

Revell 1/32 BK-117
University Hospitals Medevac 1 (Cleveland, OH)
University Hospitals Medevac 2 (Cleveland, OH)
Med Flight of Ohio #5 (Columbus, OH)

Revell 1/32 EC-135
Med Flight of Ohio #3 (Columbus, OH)

HKCW 1/72 S-76A+
Angel One (Little Rock, AK)

Scratch Projects. (Long over due)
1/30th Bell 222/230
1/40th S-76B
1/28th S-76A

Also in the process of making casting molds and vacuum molds for making exetrnal oxygon tanks and radar nozes for the BK and EC.
Casting molds to convert non-air medical BK and EC to air medical.

Custom decal artwork for the above that will be ALPSed or color lasered.

By the way, how do you post pictures on this forum?

Here's some pics. I just added some new piece parts. More coming soon.
The S-76 and 222 are needing a lot of scratch building.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/johneagle777/album?.dir=6063&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

I'll be adding helicopter photo's too.
Here's some Medevac pics. (Walk around)
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/johneagle777/album?.dir=ac1a&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/johneagle777/my_photos

Here's my pin collection too. Someone asked me about this.
http://www.hometown.aol.com/johnsengr/

Cheers,
John

QUOTE: Originally posted by AirMedical Hi, New to the forum here. I just saw the post regarding the late Igor Sikorsky. A man who's vision and genius served our country, & the world well through RW & FW flight in all branches of military service and civilian life. His work will live on and serve forever! I see his S-76's just about every day. Love that machine! Thanks Igor! John S-76 fan

It's O.K. except when you have to change tail rotor drive shafts (getting the washer stack up right for the drive coupling bolts can be a tedious affair) or when you have to crawl into the tail boom to rig control cables in the middle of August in Louisiana.

The company I work for uses them to haul folks out to oil and gas rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. While we are getting newer versions of this aircraft, we still have plenty of the S-76 A s in the fleet.

Some people liked working on them, but I prefered working on Bell 206s, 212/412s, and 214STs.

Jonathan Primm

Keystone right, hmmmm. i believe they have a few plants across the country. I really can't comment on that yet, i need to get more information. But it could definitly shift business. I will have to check the photos tonight, can't get them on the work pc. Not sure on posting pictures with this forum, i am still a newbee to the FSM forum.

Jonathan, good points about the aircraft. Bell does have a huge share of that market and the S76D is planned to change that. and hopefully the tail won't be as tight. but my feelings is that it will.

great posts everyone, John i will get back to you on the pics. with your explanations of what you are doing i imagine they are excellent

Have a good one,
Nate