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oh-58d in iraq
Posted by curtis remington on Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:38 PM

how do you guy's have them configured over there? and do you have the doors on or off?

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:07 PM

Curtis,

From what I've seen, and from all the KW drivers I've spoken to, they always fly with the doors off.  Weapons configurations vary a lot, but .50 cal on the left and either rockets or Hellfires on the right seems pretty standard. 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, March 25, 2006 4:18 PM
Rear doors are always on though.  With the added weight, they have become structural elements and are needed to keep the fuselage from warping or something like that.  Could just be they don't want as much dirt/dust getting into all the electronics back there too.

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Posted by curtis remington on Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:06 PM
i'm useing the 72 scale italeri oh-58d and it only comes with the 7 tube rocket launcher and 2 stingers, would it be likely for them to carry 2 rocket tubes?
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Posted by HeavyArty on Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:46 PM

 curtis remington wrote:
i'm useing the 72 scale italeri oh-58d and it only comes with the 7 tube rocket launcher and 2 stingers, would it be likely for them to carry 2 rocket tubes?

 

Yes, kind of a "Heavy Hog" (all rocket gunship) set-up.  Stingers are not normally carried though since there is no air-to-air threat in Iraq.

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Posted by curtis remington on Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:06 PM
well thats good, i got a ton of rocket pods from other helo's i've made.
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Posted by HeavyArty on Monday, March 27, 2006 11:48 PM
Here is a site that shows the authorized loadouts and different configurations.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:06 AM
As long as you don't have the stinger rails, then any combo of rockets or hellfires/.50cal should do.  When I was over there were '58D's had the -144's (disco light), the Mast Mounted Sights and laser detectors removed.  Hellfires were seen occasionally, but 7 shooters were the norm.  The GAU-19's (3 barrell .50)should be making their way to line units, if they haven't already.
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Posted by curtis remington on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:54 PM

 HeavyArty wrote:
Here is a site that shows the authorized loadouts and different configurations.

thanks arty i've already checked that site but just wanted to see what the norm was over in the sandbox.

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 4:43 PM

Scott,

Thanks for the confirm.  I'd heard rumblings, but didn't have any definite word on the GAU-19s on KWs.  Haven't gotten back up to Hanchey to ask any of my contacts in a few months, but I had a sneaking suspicion that we'd be seeing them on -58s pretty soon.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 11:25 AM

3 barrelled .50 cal?   I'm not aware of that weapon?  Does anyone have a link?  interesting to say the least.   7.62 always comes up short vs .51 cal..........the .50 cal seams like a good idea to be able to stand off and slug it out vs AK's and other small arms.......

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:35 PM

 phantom works wrote:
3 barrelled .50 cal?   I'm not aware of that weapon?  Does anyone have a link? 

GAU-19

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Posted by curtis remington on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:29 PM
 HeavyArty wrote:

 phantom works wrote:
3 barrelled .50 cal?   I'm not aware of that weapon?  Does anyone have a link? 

GAU-19

now thats a toy i would love to have lol

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:14 PM
thanks for the link..........I don't recall seeing a .50 cal gatlin type gun before now?  Is the GAU-19 a new development?
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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:22 PM

 phantom works wrote:
...I don't recall seeing a .50 cal gatlin type gun before now?  Is the GAU-19 a new development?

Yes, I'ts still in the fielding process.  Only developed in the last few years.

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Thursday, March 30, 2006 3:59 PM

The 160th has been using it since 2003 from what I can find.  Its first action MAY have been the Hadithah Dam firefight.  I've got an article that refers to 160th Little Birds carrying them there.

 

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Posted by intruder_bass on Thursday, March 30, 2006 4:18 PM

Would be cool commercial "Night Stalkers choose CocaCola" )))

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:18 PM
that is a lot of firepower for such a little package...........great to see it being fielded......should increase the dead bad guy ratio...
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2006 1:56 AM
The GAU-19 is supposed to spew around 1000 rounds of party mix a minute at a target, although the normal ammo load would be about 500 rds, although the initial claims of GenDynamics that the would be less maintenance intensive has turned out to be false.  You can't be any less maintenance intensive than a Ma Deuce.  Fielding should commence this year

Now if you really want to model an OIF -58D in all of its bad@ss glory, have the co-pilot engaging Al-Qaida out the left seat with his/her M-4.  I've heard many a "winchester" call and then hear, "... engaging with my M-4" in support of the boots.  That would be a diorama worth admiring.

The Cav have teamed up with, ahem, the Apache knuckledraggers and reformed the pink teams.  No standard loadouts from what I've seen but the normal is .50cal/7shot or 2 x 7 shots.
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Posted by Melgyver on Saturday, April 1, 2006 8:10 AM

That would make an interesting conversion for the "Little Bird" or OH-58.  I had seen pictures before but never saw one "installed" on an aircraft.  Thanks for the info and picture of the "Little Bird" and GAU 19

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Posted by Cobrahistorian on Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:11 AM

Tongue [:P]

 

Its about time we've gotten pink teams back. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 1, 2006 9:50 AM
I have an extra "Dragon Ah-6J Nightstalkers" kit kicking around unopened  if anyone wants to attempt that conversion. I'd love to see it. I'll let the model go for 30.00. It would be neat to see an OIF bird.
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Posted by LemonJello on Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:22 AM

Now I've got another option to scratch-build for my AV-22 when I get home...bushmaster chain guns, 40mm bofors and GAU-19's...Oh, my!

Good to see the KWs and Little Birds getting some extra punch. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 3, 2006 9:43 AM

Now if you really want to model an OIF -58D in all of its bad@ss glory, have the co-pilot engaging Al-Qaida out the left seat with his/her M-4.  I've heard many a "winchester" call and then hear, "... engaging with my M-4" in support of the boots.  That would be a diorama worth admiring.

The Cav have teamed up with, ahem, the Apache knuckledraggers and reformed the pink teams.  No standard loadouts from what I've seen but the normal is .50cal/7shot or 2 x 7 shots.

 

isn't it interesting how history has repeated itself?  apaches doing running fires and pink teams working AO's again.......leaving the hellfires at home and back to the mini guns and FFAR's.......the threats are the same as they were 30 years ago, RPG's, AK's, and manpads......and here we are again.

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