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A Question...
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:49 AM
...would a Blackhawk pilot be able to fly a Seahawk, Jayhawk or Pavehawk(and vice versa)? I don't mean operationally, like on missions, but rather get in, start her up, and fly around the patch. I'm of the opinion that they would be able to rather easily; a coworker insists that each variant is so specialized that they would have no idea how to even start a different  "   'Hawk  ". Who's right?
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Posted by albymoore on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:30 AM

I would have to disagree with your co-worker. While each type is mission specific, the basic operation of the helicopter is the same from start up to flying. The cyclic and collective sticks, and pedals are in the same spot, as are the switches and controls to start the bird (there may be minute differences between the variants, but nothing that would keep an Army UH-60 driver from flying a navy, air force, or CG H-60).

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Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:25 AM
Agree with Alby.  The basic aircraft are the same, with different mission-specific pieces/parts addeed.  Any of the services piltos could easily get in one and fly it without problems.

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Posted by AH1Wsnake on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:42 AM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto],
and,
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:48 PM
A UH-60 pilot wouldn't be able to start it, different engines (I think the seahawk has 401's vs the 700/701C in the Blackhawk) and switch setup, different limits, and would probably torch the engines on startup, plus the Seahawk has a trim system on the collective, which does something towards altitude hold.  A few weeks in a simulator, probably fly it no problem.

 Probably in the pattern it wouldn't be a big deal, but startup would be a no-go. 
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Posted by albymoore on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:13 PM

 mscottholt1 wrote:
A UH-60 pilot wouldn't be able to start it, different engines (I think the seahawk has 401's vs the 700/701C in the Blackhawk) and switch setup, different limits, and would probably torch the engines on startup, plus the Seahawk has a trim system on the collective, which does something towards altitude hold.  A few weeks in a simulator, probably fly it no problem.

 Probably in the pattern it wouldn't be a big deal, but startup would be a no-go. 

I stand corrected then. Bow [bow]  Would this apply to the MH/HH-60G as well,  or are the Pave Hawk and the Black Hawk closer to where the transition wouldn't be as problematic?

Thanks again for the correction.

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Posted by grandadjohn on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:03 PM
Most likely they could, you forget the manuel is ALWAYS in the helo, all the pilot has to do is follow it
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Posted by Screaminhelo on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:44 AM

 mscottholt1 wrote:
A UH-60 pilot wouldn't be able to start it, different engines (I think the seahawk has 401's vs the 700/701C in the Blackhawk) and switch setup, different limits, and would probably torch the engines on startup, plus the Seahawk has a trim system on the collective, which does something towards altitude hold.  A few weeks in a simulator, probably fly it no problem.

 Probably in the pattern it wouldn't be a big deal, but startup would be a no-go. 

I think that the R and S models have 701's in them.  I don't know that for sure but it would be interesting to watch start up for sure.  If it was time to GITODDADODGE, I'm sure that the plane would last long enough to get somewhere no matter what it was equipped with.

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Posted by Par429 on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:41 PM

The Romeo and Sierra both have T700-GE-401C engines.  The Navy has pushed for as much commonality as possible between them.

Phil

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