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what huey to make
Posted by forest gump on Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:23 AM

I have a Revell  uh-1 huey hog and i don't know if  i should convert it to a medi-vac huey or a utility huey or leave it the same. does anyone have any ideas to help me ?

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Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:21 AM
Regardless of which version you choose, be prepared to do some work
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Posted by Melgyver on Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:49 PM

John pretty much hit the nail on the head!  Invest in some new pilots seats and if you build a "slick" the M-60 door gun set from Cobra Company.  The old Revell Kit can be made into a nice model of the Huey.  Research, hard work, and some scratch building will take it to another level.  Until the "model" gods decide to give us a nice detailed accurate UH-1D or H we are stuck with the 50 year old Revell and "sorry" Panda kits in 1/32 or 1/35.   

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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:16 PM

I think you are talking about the old 1/48 Revell/Monogram UH-1C gunship.  If so, as Granddad says, be prepared to do some work if you want it accurate.  The kit is a combination UH-1B and C model and lots of fiction.  It has a B tail and C blades (or vise-versa).  It has many other inaccuracies as well. 

The weapons set-up is incorrect too.  B and C model gunships could not carry miniguns, rockets, and the 40mm grenade launcher.  All that armament and ammo was too heavy for it to get off the ground.  The normal set-up was either miniguns and rockets, or 40mm thumper and rockets. 

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Posted by Melgyver on Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:23 PM
Ok, I give up!  Revell has Monogram kits under their name and I can't keep'em straight anymore!  To me a Revell Huey is the old 1/32, and the Monogram is the 1/48 UH-1C or rather a B with a "540" rotor system!  Both are way past their prime and we need "new" ones! 

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Posted by black_5 on Friday, October 27, 2006 2:26 AM

From what I've read I am assuming that this is the 1/48 scale kit.  My recommendation is that you outfit it with the resin correction kit offered by the Cobra Company.  This in turn will most likely motivate you to keep it as a Vietnam era gunship.  I recommend a III corp aircraft without the nose mounted 'chunker'. If you want to get really crazy you could upgrade it to a UH-1M with National Guard markings circa 1989. 

 

 

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Posted by forest gump on Friday, October 27, 2006 11:01 AM

i forgot to add that just so everyone knows it is a 1/48 scale huey hog. sorry

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Posted by grandadjohn on Friday, October 27, 2006 11:43 AM
Mel, took me a minute to figure out which kit it was too. we are way past due for a new B and C model in 1/48th)I would like an F also)
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Posted by Melgyver on Friday, October 27, 2006 1:49 PM

John,

How could I forget the "F" and "P" versions.  Longer tailbooms, 48 ft. rotor system of the "D/H", and the different engine/exhaust set up. 

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Posted by shaun68 on Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:30 PM
How fortuitous this thread was here. I've just made a start on Monogram's 'C' & was going to ask for some help on the interior colours for a 'Nam bird. The Monogram instructions are very vague at best. Thanks Gino for the advice re: weaps carried. I was going to leave the grenade launcher off the front anyhow, as it doesn't seem to look right.
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Posted by Melgyver on Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:52 PM
Cobra Company has a nice resin "ubdate" set to correct the "B" vertical fin to the larger camber "C" as well as pilots seats and mini gun.   You need to "plug the hole in the roof just in front of the transmission.  For cheap fix on the vertical fin you can sandwich in a strip of thin plastic to extend the cord and a little puddy will give you the correct "look" for a "C".  If I remember right there isn't any collective lever or swashplate for this model.  Easy enough to scratch build.  If you have the main cabin doors open I would scratch build the interor door post behind the pilots door.  All these fixes will give you a decent looking 1/48 UH-1C.  Good luck!  

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Posted by shaun68 on Saturday, October 28, 2006 9:56 PM
Thanks Mel. Any clues on what colours inside?
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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, October 29, 2006 10:03 AM

Interior is various shades of gray.  The floor and metal works are a medium grey.  The fabric sound proofing on the walls and ceiling are a slightly darker gray.  Seats are either red or were later OD Green.  Instrument panel is gray with black instruments and a flat black anti-glare panel on top of the instrument panel. 

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Posted by shaun68 on Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:04 PM
Thanks Gino. So pretty much the same colours Italeri suggest in their 'D/H' kit. What about the red curtains across the back?
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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, October 29, 2006 5:20 PM
The "curtains" are actually the upper portions of the troop seats.  They were originally red, then later changed to OD Green along with the rest of the seat webbing.  I don't remember what the Italeri UH-1D/H directions show for interior colors, but if it is various shades of gray, they sound right. 

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Posted by arkhunter2002 on Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:50 PM

Okay, I have a question...

 Say I want to make a 1/35th UH-1N from Desert Storm...The only option is the panda kit, right?  What AM should I get?  I am looking at a possible diorama...

Does anyone have any helpful hints, pictures, or details that would be willing to share?

TIA,

Austin

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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:03 PM

Yup, the Panda kit is the only one out there.  Cobra Company makes a couple modern (OIF) USMC UH-1N detail sets.  One is for the basic aircraft (inside and out), and one is a weapons set.  They are both great.  Check the below links for UH-1N pics.

http://s96920072.onlinehome.us/AWA1/101-200/walk137_UH-1N/walk137.htm

http://s96920072.onlinehome.us/AWA1/401-500/walk495_UH-1N_Lu/walk495.htm

Cobra Company also does a USAF 20th Spec Ops Squadron UH-1N "Green Hornets" conversion set.  The Green Hornets operated armed UH-1Ns in the later years of the Vietnam War, '71 - '72.

 

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Posted by arkhunter2002 on Sunday, October 29, 2006 7:39 PM
How much of the Cobra Company resin applies to an early 90's birds?  Is there any PE (I haven't seen any out there, but that doesn't mean that there isn't any)
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Posted by AH1Wsnake on Sunday, October 29, 2006 8:32 PM

Haven't heard of any PE for the 1/35 Panda bird, and the only other aftermarket accessory I have heard of are window painting masks.

I'd highly recommend getting the Cobra Company sets for the UH-1N. The Panda kit really needs dressing up. The weapons set is great and will work for ODS armament as well as modern. For the general update set, there are a few sensors I can think of off the top of my head that need to be left off (AAR-47's for one), but the set would still be worth getting.

 

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, April 30, 2007 10:15 AM

DANG ... I sure wish I would have found this before I purchased the Revell Huey Hog. I'm anal and I wanted a REAL accurate model for a diorama that I shaln't be doing now Sad [:(]

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Posted by rotorwash on Monday, April 30, 2007 1:24 PM

It seems no one has considered making the Revell Hog into a B-model.  This would not be that difficult if you just robbed the rotor (and shorten to 44 scale feet) from an Italeri (kit #849) or AMT 1/48 D model (kit#8867).  The rotors and rotor head looks better on the Italeri, in my opinion, but the trailing edges of the rotor blade are incorrect and will need to be sanded down.   You would also need to add the blade counterweights to the rotor haed, but that shouldn't be too difficult (You can also get these from a 1/48 Fujimi UH-1B, kit. #31015,  rotors are BAD on this kit though) .  Also, the Hog model has fuel filler points on BOTH sides.  You could just fill in the left filler point and leave the right one.  Oh, and you need to leave off the roof mounted pitot tube and scratch one for the nose (if you want a B model).  If you build a C model or late model  B you could remove the  FM antenae from the nose.  I don't think a ship would have both the FM antenae on the nose and the "towel bar" FM antennae as well (right, Gino)?  A late B model would also most likely sport the M-21 armamant system with miniguns which you could also get from the armed 1/48 AMT UH-1D  and XM-157 (already in the HOG kit) or M-158 7 shot rocket pods (the 158 pods with individual tubes replaced the older XM-157's).  Most important of all is to rememebr that this is an ARMY Huey not a MARINE Huey so you got to get new decals (Unless you have Revell kit. 04476, which also has Army decals).  Marines flew the UH-1E which had a distinct housing for the rescue hoist mounted on the roof and used the TK-2 mounting system with a different weapons arrangement.   There is a lot to consider if you want your bird to be  completely accurate.  Good luck!

    Ray
 

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Friday, May 25, 2007 8:19 AM

Welcome to the Forums Smartaft.

The old often issued and always seen on the shelves Huey Hog kit is an old, tired kit. What you see here is pretty typical of old kits that are being popped from worn out molds  Even when itwas new, it was not a great kit, and that was some thirty years ago.  

As far as locating pins go, I never use them and sand them right off when I cut the part off the sprue.

Nine times out of ten (*unless it is a Bandai kit) they are wrong anyway! If you need to, superglue some small plastic tabs inside the kit to help you line up your parts and keep them aligned while the glue dries.

 

Thanks for posting up the pics, thats quite a photo gallery you have on this one

David

 

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