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One Extreme to the Other, CH-46E to the H-21

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  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Merton, Wisconsin
One Extreme to the Other, CH-46E to the H-21
Posted by bigfoot01 on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 6:32 PM

I just finished an Academy CH-46E. It was an awesome kit with incredible detail and very clear instructions. It was a fun and easy build.  Now on to the Fonderie Miniatures H-21. What a beast! Thick heavy plastic pieces with lots of flash and no locators, lots of white metal part, photo-etch and vacuform nose and very poor instructions. I have read several reviews of the contents of this kit, but found nothing on the construction. It appears it will be a bit of a challenge. I have built many Classic Airframes, NiPM, LTD, and Grand Phoenix aircraft kits, but this will be my first limited production helicopter model. I am looking forward to adding this to my collection as I remember seeing the EAA's H-21 fly for the last time a few years ago before before it went on permanent static display. It was quite an awesome sight and sound hearing that big ol' radial cruising down the flight line at about 100 feet. After finishing this I think I will need a break and build the ACH-47 from Italeri before I try to tackle the Battle-Axe HUP-2 that is coming in the mail. Oh well, enough typing, time to get to work! Wish me luck Propeller [8-]

 

John 

 

  • Member since
    July 2003
  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 10:40 PM

Well hey, we'd love to see some pics of your CH-46E.  Take some progress pics of your H-21, we'd love to see those too. 

Semper Fi,

Chris

  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Merton, Wisconsin
Posted by bigfoot01 on Tuesday, January 9, 2007 11:00 PM

Here are pictures of my CH-46 from another thread. Built OOB and "clean".:

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John 

 

  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: Reno, Nevada, USA
A few Fonderie Miniatures H-21 build notes:
Posted by Silverback on Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:21 PM

Mr. Bigfoot 

The FM instructions are actually quite complete;  they're just laid-out in the worst possible way as well as being poorly (not to mention confusingly) illustrated.  Read 'em, read 'em again, then take notes and translate the entire instruction to yourself.  You really need to identify each and every part, then understand where everything goes, before cutting a single part off the sprues.

Test fit every part, then adjust until it actually fits where its intended to go.  In particular, the fuselage walls are far too thick.  Also, the provided formers are, unfortunately, oversize, so you will need to work them down until you can get them into the fuselage and have the halves actually close.  You may also need to thin the fuselage inner walls to get everything to fit.  If you are doing a Viet Nam version, you will need to scratch build the numerous fuselage frames and other details that are so very obvious when the insulation is stripped from the side walls.

The vacuum-form nose is grossly oversize.  In order to get it to fit, you will need to cut out each clear panel, reduce its perimeter, then replace the framing with plasticard.  The rest of the cockpit is actually very nice.

For the rotors, be sure to pin the blades to the hubs.  Otherwise, they will snap-off at the slightest provocation.  The landing gear is fairly sturdy, but you may want to pin the places where it attached to the body, just to be sure.

The kit is definitely buildable, as long as you have a full jar of patience.  A few Google Image searches should provide plenty of inspiration.  For detail reference, I recommend the two 1/72 scale detail sets by Eduards.  It takes some work, but you can use these as patterns to scratchbuild the fuselage formers, as well as drop tank mounts and other doodads.  Oh, and get some good decals.  FM's are horendous in so many ways.

 

Phil

  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Merton, Wisconsin
Posted by bigfoot01 on Saturday, January 13, 2007 8:14 PM

Thank you Silverback for the advice. I have to admit that patients for that much modification is not a virtue I have. Since I have to have everything buttoned up to keep the dust out, and the fact that the side windows aren't that clear anyway, I chose to forgo the interior and spend my time getting the fuselage built and the seams nice and smooth and added the cockpit afterward. I typically do not spend time on areas that can not be seen once the model is complete. I spend my time on the stuff ya see from the outside Smile [:)] I think the cockpit turned out nice and the clear nose went on fairly well, although I managed to fog one panel with the cyanoacrylate setting spray. I still have a lot of little stuff to do on it, but here are some progress pics. I have two coats of Tamiya Olive Drab brushed on and am going to glosscoat it before I handle it anymore:

John 

 

  • Member since
    June 2003
  • From: Reno, Nevada, USA
Posted by Silverback on Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:13 PM

Hells bells, dude. You got the fuselage closed and the canopy on.  You're past the rough patch.  Lookin' good for fair sailing ahead.

I gotta agree with you about the over-detailing comment.  I filled Satan's ballroom (the engine compartment) with a formers, stringers, scratch built engine, shroud, motor mounts, oil tank, fuel lines and pumps.  If you get the light just right, you can see that there's something down there.  Otherwise, you can't see nuthin'.

Something you may want to concider ... the web seat backs can be used to block even more of the vision into the interior thru those nasty distorted windows.  Plus, painted red, they add a festive dash of color.

Oh, and paint the horizontal surface of the air intake blocker (part #19) black.  On the real helo, you'd be looking into the engine compartment, and painting it black will simulate this ominous hole.

 

Phil

  • Member since
    January 2003
  • From: Merton, Wisconsin
Posted by bigfoot01 on Monday, January 15, 2007 10:23 AM

Well, heres how it turned out. I did it in an overall glossy finish after seeing pictures of a restored H-21 that looked quite sharp. Overall I am pleased with how it turned out. I wish I would have been able to follow Silverbacks advice about adding the red seat backs, but it was to late to do that. In the pictures the interior does look bare, but that is only because of the flash. In normal light you can't see much of anything inside.

John 

 

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