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Posted by Anonymous
on Saturday, September 27, 2003 1:38 AM
Originally posted by dkmacin
Chuck,
SAR/Special OPS, what does it carry on the inside SAR Gear wise? Is it rigged out seperately for a SAR mission on a case by case or just generally a plane waiting for the big one?
Don
On a typical rescue mission we were prepped for either a sea or land op. 2 rescue swimmers with a crew chief along with 2 pilots. Equipment, inflatable raft, PRC-90, rescue hoist, all crewmembers were trained for any medical assistance that may be required. A 2 ship affair if were to fly into a hot LZ, one helo standing for close air support as the other did the actual extraction. We were armed with 2 pintle mounted M60 7.62 light MG's, on each side of the helo, a rocket pod can be mounted on the LH pylon, or Hellfires. As an option, .50 cal heavy MG's also can be carried. For self defense we had an IR jammer and flare chaff dispensers as well. Each crewmember was issued a side arm, choice of a .45 or 9mm Beretta. Nice to know that this aircraft is all-weather and night mission capable. My heart still pounds over one foggy evening. Really scary....
Chuck
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Posted by dkmacin
on Saturday, September 27, 2003 2:19 PM
I flew in the USCG HH65A as a flight mechanic first, then went down hill to Rescue Swimmer. We were always outfitted for SAR.
In Alaska the HH60J guys were primary SAR but we got a few in.
Mostly we rode on the back of cutters. Sometimes though, on the dark and stormy nights we'd have to go and pull some fisherman out of the water.
Ever wonder why no one gets in trouble on sunny, clear, calm days?
Don
I know it's only rock and roll, but I like it.
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Posted by templar8777
on Saturday, October 4, 2003 12:13 AM
hi, I work on SH-60B helos for the navy. I've had the chance to look at the H model, the main structural differance is the large crew window on the port side. The crew window is extended aft to occupy the space where the sono-buey launcher would be on the Bravo. Also the Hotel version has the wire strike devices installed. There are also numerous extra antennas on the Hotel. I would recommend using a Bravo model kit for the basic helo then cannibalizing an army MH-60K model for antennas. for the big crew window, well you'll have to fabricate that. The interior of the Hotel is pretty much empty except for four troop seats across the aft bulkhead of the cargo compartment(canibalize these from the MH-60K). I may be able to dig up some pics of the Hotel mosel, but don't hold your breath.
Hope this is helpful.
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Hi F14 Fan,
I think saw a Tamiya 1/72 HH-60 Seahawk in the hobby shop the other week. It looks good with engraved panel lines. I am not sure of the version, though as I was not paying much attention to the labels only to the box art and pictures. If I remember it right the kit was manufactured somewhere in Europe?
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 6:21 AM
I'm a USAF SAR dude, but have worked alot with navy 60's (army 60's and other platforms as well...nature of the business). Anyway, don't forget that the HH-60H is the only Navy 60 with HIRSS. This are the IR supression baffles on the exhaust. The HH-60H is also the only Navy 60 that has a FLIR ball mounted on the nose. The H can go no-medium threat while the fox and bravo could only do no-low threat.
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Posted by templar8777
on Wednesday, October 8, 2003 7:01 PM
Well Salbando your facts are a little off. The Bravo does have a FLIR ball on the nose, we can fire hellfire, torpedos, and even penguin missiles. The Bravo is a bona fide war fighting machine. We extend the communications range of the frigates, destroyers, and cruisers we deploy to, as well as offering a well armed defensxe platform for the small boys while operating outside of a battle group. Don't mean to brag, but we are proud of our Seahawks.
PROUD WARRIORS!
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Posted by Anonymous
on Thursday, October 9, 2003 7:15 AM
Templar8777,
Not trying to start a war here, but since the original post was in reference to differences in the Seahawk variants. all I'm saying is that I've been in the business (albeit USAF CSAR) for quite some time and have worked with USN aircrews and NSW lots of times both on contingencies and on exercises (most recently Desert Rescue down at NAS Fallon). I'm not saying that the SH-60B is a REMF toad airframe. Anything but that, especially considering the Block I and Armed Helicopter Program upgrades giving it FLIR, Hellfire/Penguin capability, and even provision for the GAU-16 .50 Cal. What I am saying is that one of it's secondary missions is SAR. Not CSAR. I've never seen an SH-60B during a real-world or exercise CSAR. I even e-mailed an instructor I met at Fallon (best home-brew I've ever tasted) concerning this. He's the one that gave me the upgrade info. He said that the SOP for the Navy is to limit the Bravos and Foxs to low-no threat missions, whereas the Hotels were taylor made for CSAR and NSW and therefore could go Medium - no threat (and they are still the only Seahwks with HIRSS). Now I realize threats can be reduced (CSARTF, SEAD, RESCORT, RESCAP) but I've got to go with the instructor and what I've actually seen in this case.
BTW if anyones interested, I've got some great shots of the Black camo and desert camo (hind similator) SH-60's from NSAWC at Fallon. I also took some shots of their aggressor F-5's and F-16s. Interesting paint schemes. I was even able to get a couple of the Threat Center's HIND and their HIP. During one scenario, the HIP got two kills on A-10's.
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:02 AM
Here's a great link I found with detail shots of the SH-60B including the interior. Note the cramped interior with all of the sensor operator gear. Is there provision for mounting an MG on the left side of the aircraft? No HIRSS
http://www.ksurf.net/~fanakit/docphoto/Seahawk/page_01.htm
Here's a shot of an SH-60F in flight next to an HH-60H. Note the differences.
http://www.navalhelicopterassn.org/Index%20of%20Photographs/Seahawk%20F%20Gallery/HS-11.jpg
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Posted by Anonymous
on Friday, October 31, 2003 7:21 PM
Just for notes...in a few years the Navy will phase the HH-60H to the MH-60S as the Combat SAR platform. The MH-60S has replaced the CH/HH-46Ds of the HC units in the VERTREP role. The MH-60S is basically an Army Blackhawk painted gray. It's also the other Navy H-60 that has HIRSS.
Carl
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, November 4, 2003 1:03 PM
Italeri's HH60H is not very nice.
This model isn't very accurate... but cheap.
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Posted by allan
on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:36 AM
Dwight,
I bought one of those Tamiya kits and its actually a repackaged Italeri SH-60B. It even has the same Zanchetti decal sheet.
No bucks, no Buck Rogers 
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Posted by Anonymous
on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:01 PM
Buy the Italeri's 1/48 SH-60 kit and then go to www.cobracompany.com and purchase the HH-60H conversion kit that has the necessary parts to do the conversion. I am in the process of doing and it takes alot of your time. The instructions are very clear as most conversions are. I will summit pics of it when it is finish.
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Posted by Par429
on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 11:28 AM
Hi-
I too am working on a 1/48 HH-60H based on the SH-60B and a Cobra Company conversion. A bit of work, but the CC kit is really great. Although I think it has a couple minor things that need to be corrected. I've posted some pics in the Attack Helo Group Build thread in the Group Builds Forum, but I have an album at:
http://www.photobucket.com/albums/v485/par429/HH-60H
Salbando, the SH-60B and F cannot mount a MG on the left side. The sensor console and sonobouy launcher are in the way. The HH can mount MGs on both the left and right sides.
Regards,
Phil
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:48 PM
Looking good, a little work and it's a proModel.
Bye
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Here is an link for any models. http://revell.de/cgi-bin/kat/katalog.pl?cmd=overview&KOSCHL=02&grp=02&ARARTN=04458&modellsuche=&showall=&ps_KOSCHL=&SWO=&MAS=&frei=&lang=en&kat=modell&sort=mass&page=1&mas=48
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Posted by Anonymous
on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:50 PM
Phil,
Thanks for the info.
Man I did'nt think this thread would resurface.
BTW, what's the best way to go about a 1/48 scale USCG HH-60J? I know think there's at least one out there, but was wondering how good/accurate it was.
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I have built the Hasegawa 60J for the JMSDF Japan.. Its a beautiful kit compared to the Tamiya one in 1/72.. I just wished I had done it a little more justice!
Chris in Japan
On the bench:
1/48 RAAF 3 Sqn F/A-18B
1/150 /1/160 N Scale Japanese Rail diorama.
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PAR,
Your Hotel is coming along great. I just got back from a Detatchment with my Squadron and hope to make some progress on my HH-60H.
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