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HRS-1/HO4S/H-19 build

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Posted by RotorheadTX on Thursday, March 1, 2007 9:05 PM

Well, isn't that a kick in the lugnuts??

 Here's the full version of my photo:

 

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Posted by supercobra on Thursday, March 1, 2007 8:33 PM

Thanks.  I'll keep my eye out for pictures.  Funny that the only other picture in that scheme I had was of the other windshield - different squadron but same stripes. 

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Posted by RotorheadTX on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:36 AM

As regards the B&W H-19 photo, I don't have any good info on the trim color. The photo was originally published in the Japanese magazine Koku-Fan, and I've cropped it slightly for emphasis on the windshield.

I am reasonably certain that the overall color is Light Gull Grey, as this was an appropriate color for helos in active units in the late '50's. I asked one of my Japanese co-workers to read the photo's caption, but he said it gave no info about the trim color.

In this case, I would have to guess that it might match up with the 'doghouse' coloring seen on Marine H-34's in the early VietNam period, but I've never been able to make sense of how those colors were assigned to the various squadrons. 

(Personally, I think it would look great with red trim, but that's just me.)

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Posted by J.H. Primm on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:00 AM
 RotorheadTX wrote:

Jonathan,

 good job on that H-19 kit! It looks really good. I am planning to do a USMC bird like yours, recycling the decals from the last re-issue of the Airfix kit.

 One thing I would like to point out, and please don't take this as bashing of your build, because I've already made the same mistake on one of my Whirlwind conversions. On the early H-19's and ALL of the Whirlwinds, the canopy framing was different, and the windscreens were internally braced. I just found this out thanks to a write-up in a UK magazine. Have a look at these photos, and you'll see where Italeri goofed it up for all of us. (Bless 'em, there's always a snag in their chopper kits!!)

 

 

Thanks for the kind words and no offense taken, I'm glad you pointed it out...I only wish I had know about it before I started, I could hace taken the extra frames off.

BTW, Nice reference photo of the HMM-162 bird... Do you have any more, or as was asked earlier do you have any color references for that particular paint scheme? That photo has me wanting to do one for that squadron...I was assigned to that unit from mid 1976 to late 1977.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

Jonathan Primm

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Posted by supercobra on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 8:56 PM

Thanks Tony.  I never noticed that.  How about the color scheme on the 2nd photo (HMM-162)?  Anybody know or better yet have a color photo?

Randy

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Posted by RotorheadTX on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:28 PM

Jonathan,

 good job on that H-19 kit! It looks really good. I am planning to do a USMC bird like yours, recycling the decals from the last re-issue of the Airfix kit.

 One thing I would like to point out, and please don't take this as bashing of your build, because I've already made the same mistake on one of my Whirlwind conversions. On the early H-19's and ALL of the Whirlwinds, the canopy framing was different, and the windscreens were internally braced. I just found this out thanks to a write-up in a UK magazine. Have a look at these photos, and you'll see where Italeri goofed it up for all of us. (Bless 'em, there's always a snag in their chopper kits!!)

 

 

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Posted by midnightprowler on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 2:45 PM

Very nice.  I am in the process of doing this kit right now.

Lee

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Posted by J.H. Primm on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:09 AM
 AH1Wsnake wrote:

Very nice build, Mr. Primm. Thanks a lot for sharing your progress and end result!

 

Andy.

 

Thanks for the kind words Andy.

The aircraft was modeled after a bird used by HMR-161, circa 1952. The squadron later became HMM-161.

Jonathan Primm

Youngsville, LA

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Posted by AH1Wsnake on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:59 PM

Very nice build, Mr. Primm. Thanks a lot for sharing your progress and end result!

 

Andy.

 

 

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Posted by grandadjohn on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:58 PM
Looks good, need to do my old Revell 1/48th kit one of these days, that will need a lot of work
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Posted by J.H. Primm on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 10:40 PM

Here is the end result, it needs a little more work, but it'll do as a "four footer"

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Posted by Swanny on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:24 AM
I think it's a great improvement. Little things like this are what make prize winners.
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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:20 AM

yep, looks great!

its not a bad kit at all, actually one of Italaris better kits. Wish they had put as much attention into the AH-1T/W/ Z kits, but thats what resin and scratchbuilt parts are for!

 Any other photos to share?

David

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HRS-1/HO4S/H-19 build
Posted by J.H. Primm on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:33 AM

I recently picked up the Italeri HH-19 kit and was surprised at the detail on it...I was expecting much worse.

Anyway, I looked at the troop seats and decided I could improve on them. I modified the seat supports by cutting off the plastic ones and replacing them with small gauge welding rod and pieces of .020 safety wire (also known as "lock wire")

As I don't have anything else to illustrate the "before" and "after", I took one of the troop seats from an Italeri H-21 kit which had the same kinds of supports.

Some touch up painting is still required, but dry fitting the seats looks something like this:

 I probably will not add lap belts because most of this will not be visible once it is closed up in the fuselage...More photos will be added as the build progresses.

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