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  • Member since
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  • From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Propeller problem
Posted by T-rex on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:33 PM

Guys I need your help, all my helicopters have broken propellers than I can't fix them, there never straight and fall off before the glue dries, I still can get all the propellers on my Airfix 1/72 Chinook helicopter and I don't want the same problem on my new Revel 1/48 Black hawk.

Please any advise will help!

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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:40 PM

I build my main rotors as seperate units and never permenately attach them to my build. I will take a photo and post it later if you wish

(P.S. helo's don't have prop's, they have rotor blades)

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  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:57 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]  I always build them separately and they are built to be removable.  I do both the main rotor and tail rotors this way.  No issues with breakage at all.

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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:06 PM

unattached

attached

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  • From: Piedmont Triad, NC (USA)
Posted by oldhooker on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 2:38 PM

Hi T-Rex,

 It sounds to me like you're trying to mount the "rotor blades" before the glue dries enough to support their weight.      I suggest assembling the rotor mechanism before attaching/including it to the fuselage, and set you up some kind of support jig to keep everything positioned until the glue sets.     Example:

** Wait until the glue is completely set (2 days) before handling it **

Hope this helps some, good luck, and come by anytime! Smile [:)]

Take care,

Frank

  • Member since
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  • From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted by T-rex on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 4:57 PM

AH I see, so the trick is to instal the blades(propeller) before place on the main body of the model, it can also make the propeller move(spin) after its done, I do put stands but after the blades are on the model. Thanks for the advise.

But another problem on Helo (I think it short for helicopter) is the landing gear, can set it up right. It always falls or bens, this is a problem for me on both Helo and small scale aircrsft.

Any advise? 

Working on: Trumpeter SU-152 (1/35) Trumpeter E-10 (1/35) Heller Somua (1/35)

"The world is your enemy, prince of a thousand enemy. And when they'll find you, they will kill you... but they will have to catch you first ''

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  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:32 PM
 T-rex wrote:
But another problem on Helo (I think it short for helicopter) is the landing gear, can set it up right. It always falls or bens, this is a problem for me on both Helo and small scale aircrsft.

Any advise? 

 

Same as for the rotor blades.  Hold them in position with a jig, clothes pins, clips, etc. till they are fully dried and able to hold the weight of the model.

Gino P. Quintiliani - Field Artillery - The KING of BATTLE!!!

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Posted by skypirate1 on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 7:18 PM

lol John & Gino 

i dont attach mine either, i thought it was just me being lazy or over cautious lol, feel better now Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Andy

While the rest of the crew may be in the same predicament, it's almost always the pilot's job to arrive at the crash site first.
  • Member since
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  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Thursday, March 1, 2007 12:23 AM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto]I agree with the waiting the full cure time on the glue. I think sometimes with modelling, the hardest part is the wait on glue or paint to completely dry so that you can move to the next step.

However, i DIDN'T know that the rotor blades didn't attach permamantly to the aircraft! I've done maybe 2 or 3 rotory wings in my life, and i don't remember any of them being that way. Kinda makes me wanna try another.

And GranddadJohn, I'm really digging that AH-1T ya got there! What scale and brand is it? Now i really want one!!!Tongue [:P]

Warmest regards,

Roger

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Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, March 1, 2007 7:21 AM
It's the Italeri 1/48th scale AH-1T kit
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  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Thursday, March 1, 2007 8:10 PM

 grandadjohn wrote:
It's the Italeri 1/48th scale AH-1T kit

I like it! Can i have yours? (just kidding). Wink [;)]

I'm looking to pick on up myself, but oddly enough i am having a hard time finding em in 1/48. May need to hit up ebay later on. Very nice cobra!

Warmest regards,

Roger

  • Member since
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  • From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posted by T-rex on Thursday, March 1, 2007 9:51 PM

Ye3ah me too, I only wait a few minutes for the paint and glue to dry, maybe I should wait long like a few hours or maybe a day. How long do you all think?

I been work on my new Revel 1/48 Black hawk but it's not doing so good, I had to open the body to insert the seats I forgot to install, I had to cut out the body to open up the inside to set up the seat. fortunatly I manage to intall them successfuly but I cn't say its alright.

Does anyone know any way of fixing the problem?

Working on: Trumpeter SU-152 (1/35) Trumpeter E-10 (1/35) Heller Somua (1/35)

"The world is your enemy, prince of a thousand enemy. And when they'll find you, they will kill you... but they will have to catch you first ''

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Casa Grande, Az.
Posted by DesertRat on Thursday, March 1, 2007 10:48 PM

depends on what you're glueing/painting, weather conditions, size of the painting/glueing surface, etc.

I'd recommend at least a day for cure time. I've found that modelling has alot to do with prioritizing and time management. I know we all wanna see our projects completed quickly, but it also takes alot of patience as well. Good luck with the hawk!

Warmest regards,

Roger

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