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Engage, Adapt and Overcome!
Posted by StephenLawson on Thursday, July 3, 2008 4:38 AM

No more to fear the tyranny of terrain.

 

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, July 3, 2008 7:51 AM

Cool picture. However, the saying is, "Improvise, Adapt, & Overcome!" It is also a USMC saying. The pic ic of a US Army CH-47 Chinook in A'tsan (it looks like), not a Marine helo. It is also a common practice in mountainous and/or urban terrain to do a tail down only hover.

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  • From: Aaaaah.... Alpha Apaches... A beautiful thing!
Posted by Cobrahistorian on Thursday, July 3, 2008 8:27 AM

That's one of our birds in 2004.  I know both guys who were on the controls.  Good dudes, but then again, most Hookers are.  Its them sneaky Blackhawk types you've gotta watch out for! ;)

 Jon

Drivin the airborne muscle car with guns....

"1-6 is in hot"
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  • From: phoenix
Posted by grandadjohn on Thursday, July 3, 2008 10:18 AM
 Cobrahistorian wrote:

That's one of our birds in 2004.  I know both guys who were on the controls.  Good dudes, but then again, most Hookers are.  Its them sneaky Blackhawk types you've gotta watch out for! ;)

 Jon

Drivin the airborne muscle car with guns....

 

Somethin tells me you have a thing about Blackhawk driversWhistling [:-^]

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, July 3, 2008 10:42 AM
Looking closely at the guys boarding is revealing. Looks like someone won a suprise trip courtesy of Uncle SamSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

 

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  • From: Aaaaah.... Alpha Apaches... A beautiful thing!
Posted by Cobrahistorian on Thursday, July 3, 2008 1:45 PM

Me? 

Actually, no.  Just the opposite.  Blackhawk drivers tend to have issues with Apache guys.

Jon

"1-6 is in hot"
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Posted by Heloguy on Thursday, July 3, 2008 5:24 PM
I'm just admiring the landing at whatever altitude that is...so much power in that bird.  When we land in a search-and-rescue in the mtns, it's just about 25 gallons of fuel on board our A-Star B3...that thing probably has half that alone in its fuel lines at any given time...  Just kidding, just kidding, I know it holds much less than that, just hyperbole!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Aaronw on Thursday, July 3, 2008 6:48 PM

 Heloguy wrote:
I'm just admiring the landing at whatever altitude that is...so much power in that bird.  When we land in a search-and-rescue in the mtns, it's just about 25 gallons of fuel on board our A-Star B3...that thing probably has half that alone in its fuel lines at any given time...  Just kidding, just kidding, I know it holds much less than that, just hyperbole!Big Smile [:D]

 

Do you work for PHi, Rogers, CHP or Mediflight? We get B3's from all of those frequently, just wondering if I might have landed you in Ahwahnee or El Cap meadow at some point. 

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  • From: California
Posted by Heloguy on Thursday, July 3, 2008 7:16 PM
I'm actually down in S. California with Riverside County Sheriff.  We frequently pull lost and/or injured hikers from the San Jacinto Mtns, elev. 10,800', usually hoisting.  In a perfect world we would use a twin (I personally am pushing for an AW109) but until we find that kind, rich citizen to donate a few mil, we'll keep using 'ole reliable single-engine.  You've got some beautiful land up there.
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Posted by Aaronw on Thursday, July 3, 2008 10:55 PM

Those B3s sure are popular, too bad there isn't a kit in 1/72 I could do at least 1/2 dozen of them.

They may only be a single engine but they sure do well at altitude.

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  • From: California
Posted by Heloguy on Friday, July 4, 2008 12:30 AM
 Aaronw wrote:

Those B3s sure are popular, too bad there isn't a kit in 1/72 I could do at least 1/2 dozen of them.

They may only be a single engine but they sure do well at altitude.

Yes to all the above.  That Turbomecca engine is notoriously reliable and we all love that aircraft.  In fact, the B3 is the only helo to have landed atop Mt. Everest.  It's really neat, it's on the Eurocopter website, basically stripped down, put the toes down for 2 min. and just auto'd all the way down. 

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  • From: Baton Rouge, Snake Central
Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Friday, August 1, 2008 11:52 AM

sigh...i never once got to work on the T'meca....all my Astars had Lyc 101s in them....ugh!

 I went back to Rogers to visit a few years ago to see how the old place had changed, actually it was the last year that they had the Doolittle Raid at FAT, so I guess it was 2000, and they had an F with a T'meca hung on it. 

 Well, maybe someaday in the future if I go back rotary and quit flying this starchwing bound desk!

 

David

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  • From: Georgia
Posted by Screaminhelo on Saturday, August 2, 2008 5:45 AM

Jon...I am heart broken!  You know that Blackhawk guys NEVER give Apache guys a hard timeWink [;)] (Saving the expected digs).

Someone actually sent me the same picture as part of a group e-mail expressing amazement at the skill of the pilots.  I never did respond but was tempted to reply that this is simply a combination of basic skills, it is a hover with a pivot point.  That being said, it does require very good crew co-ordination to do this safely.  Pinacles are actually pretty fun to do.

 

Mac

I Didn't do it!!!

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  • From: Southern NJ
Posted by Jeordicat on Sunday, August 10, 2008 5:51 PM
It was rumored that the guys were from the Pennsylvania Army National Guard's 28th Infantry Divison, in Afghanistan I think.  I was a CAV Officer in that division.  Just a lil' aside.
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