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  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
In flight diorama
Posted by T-rex on Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:12 PM

Has anyone done and know how to do a in flight dio, its not a stand with a rod, its more of a dogfight or a action scene of a in-flight aircraft, Basicly like a armor diorama, except in the sky.

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It may be an actual battle or a single dogfight, but it would be very intenst actionfor a good scene.

For instant I'm planning of making a in-flight scene of a Mig 3 doing a sharp up right turn after shooting down a german Heinkel He reconnaisent, both aircraft will be in the scene.

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, September 26, 2008 12:20 AM
You will have to have some type of rod or string supports.  The key is to hide them well.  I have seen it done with the dio as a wall ahnging.  The bachground is painted as sky with clouds and such.  The rods were hidden under the sing of the aircraft and were hard to see.  Also check out the 747 dio in the post below on the DIio page, he used a mirror and half the aircraft mounted to it. 

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  • Member since
    June 2008
  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, September 26, 2008 12:49 AM

Ahh... The ultimate goal of any aircraft dio, depicting an aircraft in it's element... Almost a "Holy Grail", but stll doable with some imagination (and basic electrical work and minor soldering skills) and fair number of cuss words... 

I've tried on a couple of occasions, with mixed results...  The BEST one I did, (unfortunately, I don't have pictures) was in a shadow box using forced perspective.  It was a 1/48th F4F in a head-on pass with a Zeke modeled in 1/72nd scale.  The rods suspending the planes were inserted into the fuselage from the back of the box, out of the viewer's line of sight.  I did a defused lighting effect with a couple of 6-inch incadescent tube lights  for overall lighting, and a fill light to wipe out the shadows of the suspension rods,  as well as lighting the gun muzzles of the Zeke with grain-of-wheat bulbs inserted into some spun-glass (Angel Hair) "flash"...  I tried to wire in a flasher to the Zeke's guns, but it wouldn't "flash" near fast enough to look anything like the cyclic-rates of machine guns and looked ridiculous, more like "Eat at Joe's-Eat at Joe's ", so I left them "on" in a snapshot effect... however, I digress... 

 I used a frosted piece of plexiglass ceiling tile for the "sky" and used a wrap-around background of light blue tagboard with some whispy "clouds" sparayed on.  It was pretty cool, I thought, but it could only be viewed by one person at a time.   Without doing the "Half model on a mirror" type of diorama, you aren't going to be able to get away from suspension systems, so the shadow-box was the way to go for me...  Actually, it's about the best way for any type diorama that you can think of that allows a realistic-looking setting for forced-perspective with a minimum of "footprint".. 

The other was a massive WW1 dogfight in 1/72nd scale suspended from the ceiling.  I had about 10 aircraft, a mixed bag of Allied and German fighters, suspended by clear fishing line from a paper-mache' "overcast" anchored to a light fixture, which supplied the light as well... This you could look at from all angles.  It took up about 30-40 square feet of ceiling space, and had its detractors... First, it was impossible to keep the planes from moving in every little puff of air, and it was also a dust magnet, especially the suspension lines ,and next to impossible to clean... 

Currently, I'm engaged in an "in fight, sort-of" diorama from The Blue Max, in which Von Klugermann's Dr1 has just struck the ruins with his undercart, causing his crash after he and Stachel were flat-hatting at the bridge...  I'm using the "crumpling" undercart to suspend the model in-flight (pre-wreck?) by rebuilding the struts from brass tubing (plastic wouldn't bear the weight in scale thickness) and attaching them between the ruins and model.  It needs some more work, but is quite rugged...  

For your idea, I'd highly recommend the "shadow-box-mixed-scale-forced-perspective" route...

 

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