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Diorama "Belgium 1944"

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Posted by Huxy on Monday, November 17, 2008 11:55 PM

 smeagol the vile wrote:
They could just be very, very, very stupid germans, like the ones in Hogan's Heros.

Yes! There we got it!

Nothing more to discuss then? Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, November 17, 2008 7:17 PM
They could just be very, very, very stupid germans, like the ones in Hogan's Heros.

 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Monday, November 17, 2008 10:45 AM

but, of course, that requires me to search for something that should be obvious in a dio,: the story?

Bingo... The story should not only be apparent to the viewer, it should be apparent immediately...

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, November 17, 2008 10:28 AM
 Huxy wrote:

Mainstein wrote.... 

Well, because there was no fighting in Belgium until late in '44, so it is implied...unless this is a training exercise, which it doesn't appear to be...and then there is the vehicle...all elements done reasonably well, but put together, as most of these dios are, doesn't fit well together...

 

I do agree..

But just for making it a reasonable thingy (Which is hard) Let's say bombers flew over and the flak are shooting at them. Some crew bailed out and landed nearby...  Took their pistols out and the Germans are ready... hehe...  That was just horrible.. 

Huxy... you might be on to something... oh, wait... if they are shootin' at bombers, where are the empty shell casings...?

When I first looked this over, I tried to give the benefit of the doubt and say this was a training exercise - the gunner on the flak looks like he is receiving some instruction from the fig with the binos...  but, of course, that requires me to search for something that should be obvious in a dio,: the story?

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, November 16, 2008 10:56 PM
My biggest issues aren’t that the troops in the trench and the crew on the Flak don’t fit... none of them fit with each other! The trenchies all look like they're... not suposta be in a trench. One guy's leaning forward as if he was making an advance... from the back wall of the trench to the front. One guy looks like he's leaning over someone that's not there discussing a map or whatever and the other two are just hangin' out. The Flak crew's the same way, the back three look like there's a threat in the air and the driver and his buddy are just as calm as can be like they're discussing a pretty girl that walked across the front bumper...

Haha I don't know, I kind of like Huxy's story line though :) And before I even scrolled down I had a feeling Gino would have the first reply lol

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Posted by Huxy on Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:30 AM

Mainstein wrote.... 

Well, because there was no fighting in Belgium until late in '44, so it is implied...unless this is a training exercise, which it doesn't appear to be...and then there is the vehicle...all elements done reasonably well, but put together, as most of these dios are, doesn't fit well together...

 

I do agree..

But just for making it a reasonable thingy (Which is hard) Let's say bombers flew over and the flak are shooting at them. Some crew bailed out and landed nearby...  Took their pistols out and the Germans are ready... hehe...  That was just horrible.. 

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:16 AM
 Huxy wrote:

Where do you guys get late Belgium 1944 from? That's my main question..

 

But yes, the diorama doesen't fit togheter to well.. 

Well, because there was no fighting in Belgium until late in '44, so it is implied...unless this is a training exercise, which it doesn't appear to be...and then there is the vehicle...all elements done reasonably well, but put together, as most of these dios are, doesn't fit well together...
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Posted by Huxy on Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:12 AM

Where do you guys get late Belgium 1944 from? That's my main question..

 

But yes, the diorama doesen't fit togheter to well.. 

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:51 PM
Might be the flash, but the uniforms are way off for color...On my screen, they look like a faded SS mausgrau rather than Heer feldgrau...

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Posted by subfixer on Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:39 AM
I agree with you, Arty and Manny, but he did do a good job on the figures and the vehicle, though. Too bad he didn't follow through with the diorama.

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, November 14, 2008 12:52 PM

As far as the AA gun goes, you dont know what direction they are facing, maybe there facing south, and you know, england is north of beljum more or less, that kind of thing.

 

That just doesn't make tactical sense.  You would never have your back toward the enemy.  You always put all your defenses facing the enemy.  I assume you have never been in the military or you would understand the concept.

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 14, 2008 7:38 AM
I agree...Belgium '44 implies that this would be a Battle of the Bulge scene...figs are totally wrong; so is groundwork...And the vehicle depicted is exclusively an Eastern front one...I know of none of these that served in the West...
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Posted by smeagol the vile on Friday, November 14, 2008 7:37 AM

As far as the AA gun goes, you dont know what direction they are facing, maybe there facing south, and you know, england is north of beljum more or less, that kind of thing.

 One thing about the figures in the trench that bug is that there point at... something.  Looks like there should be  a map infront of them.

 

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Posted by HeavyArty on Friday, November 14, 2008 3:00 AM
This dio just doesn't go together. The vehicle and the infantry don't fit together.  The infantry are looking in one direction, and the AA gun is looking to their rear.  The planks on the trench are wrong too.  They are about 24 inches wide and never stop.  They are one continuous piece for the whole length as well.  The groundwork looks like a desert, not Beligum in late '44 when it would have been either covered in snow or mud.  Lastly, the vehicle tracks are floating on both sides.  It doesn't look like a heavy, tracked vehicle on soft ground.  This is not one of art Instructors better efforts.

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Diorama "Belgium 1944"
Posted by Model Maniac on Friday, November 14, 2008 1:17 AM

This is from the first page introduced in the 11th year service of my website. 

Diorama "Belgium 1944" using Italeri's Sd.Kfz.10/4 Flak30 and Dragon's German Infantry - By
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