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need winter diorama help
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 30, 2003 2:45 PM
Does anyone have tips for creating realistic-looking snow for winter dioramas? I've tried a vast range of "fake snow" products with no success. Christmas spray snow looks good, but I'm unsure of how to seal it to keep it from rubbing off.
Any other ideas?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 30, 2003 4:27 PM
your generally not supposed to play with a diorama, so why would the xmas snow rub off???
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Posted by Butz on Sunday, November 30, 2003 4:48 PM
Hey gozzizul,
From what I have heard "baking soda" works very well in representing snow!!
You can find this at your local super market.
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by mark956 on Sunday, November 30, 2003 4:54 PM
I agree with Airbrush. If you do not have kids or animals your diorama should be safe.
mark956
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Posted by Butz on Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:03 PM
Question for ya,
If you use the Christmas spray on snow, could there be any reaction w/ the plastic or the paint?
I know my folks have used it but they did not have anything that had any real physical contact w/ it.
This may seem as a dumb question but I really never worked w/ the spray on and yes it does look more realistic than the baking soda.
Flaps up, Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 30, 2003 6:40 PM
I used the spray snow once a few years back. The results were pretty good but I found that old dio a few days ago and the snow was slightly yellow. But I think pretty much all white materials get yellow-ish over the years when exposed to sun light.
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Posted by renarts on Sunday, November 30, 2003 7:17 PM
baking soda, talc, plaster all work pretty well for snow. Ive seen really fine salt crystals mixed in sometimes and it makes an effect like ice crystals when light reflects off them.

parafin makes a nice ice effect as does resin. If you let it start to set up and then drip it on the branch, overhang, etc it will create an effect like icicles. If you dip it successively into resin it will create large icicles.

Don't forget to notice where you put snow. i.e. snow will not accumulate on the rear decking of an operational tank. On helmets of walking soldiers, etc.

Hope this helps. Lets see some pics of the finished project.

Mike
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 30, 2003 7:57 PM
I transport my dioramas for shows and competitions, so I need to use permanent or semi-permanent materials that can be handled by other people. Durability and longevity are important to me for that reason; I don't play with my dioramas, or do I need to worry about kids or pets.
Thanks to everyone who had suggestions.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 30, 2003 8:48 PM
Hi Gozzizul,
I made snow for the base of an old wargaming model once. I created it using sand mixed with PVA wood glue, after it dried I painted it white then did a blue wash. It look really good, in my opinion. But keep in mind, I live in north Queensland and have never actually seen snow!! Only on telly!

Good luck mate, Wacky
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Posted by mark956 on Sunday, November 30, 2003 10:42 PM
You are lucky wacky. Snow sucks.
mark956
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Posted by renarts on Sunday, November 30, 2003 11:18 PM
Try two part foam or the stuff that comes in a can. You have to do some "wrangling" but it trims up when its cured. Paint it white, and short of a barn fire it will last pretty well. It has a snow like quality about it.

The other possibility is to mix very fine sand into plaster. Very fine almost a powder. When it sets up, it will give you again that soft texture.

The talc or baking soda works well if you put it over celuclay or plaster painted white. It will give that snow like quality to the ground but you wont have to use as much. Just enough to "texture" the ground material.

mike
Mike "Imagination is the dye that colors our lives" Marcus Aurellius A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 3, 2003 12:04 AM
Have a search under "Snow".
There was an extensive thread on this recently with good advice and lots of suggestions.
Cheers, Pete.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 4, 2003 9:56 PM
Get down to the chemist/pharmacy or whatever you call it, wherever you are, and get a box of Epsom Salts, also called magnesium sulphate. Brilliant stuff for scale snow!
Stick it on with white glue (try a test piece first) leave to dry & then spray lightly with a couple of coats of gloss varnish.
It's cheap, and is used to erm, clean out your insides, if you get what I mean. So make sure you wash your hands well after using it, you do not want to find out how well it works!
With careful handling it should stick to your diorama's during transport.
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Posted by dpty_dawg_ca on Friday, December 5, 2003 3:13 PM
I have made deep snow drifts with foam beadboard (the white stuff) I painted it with white latex paint, added some gliter to give a little frosty sparkle, then dusted it with spray snow from about 3' above. It has been around for several years now. It hasn't yellowed and has traveled extensivly. It stands up well to handling and doesn't adversly effect styrene.
Carl
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