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"Schnell, Mach Schnell!" Update Feb.8,09 "Claycrete"

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"Schnell, Mach Schnell!" Update Feb.8,09 "Claycrete"
Posted by doc-hm3 on Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:41 PM

  I have had the build for my centerpiece Dragon's Sd.Kfz.234/4 over in the armor forum and I believe it is completed, at least for the time being. And this is what she looks like.

 So here's theme story line: Late Winter/Early Spring "44". Our Scout/Recon crew had to engage the enemy, and shoot and scoot, One of the crew was mortally wounded. The crew found the time to lay to rest thier brother. And as the driver is placing the last stone on thier brothers final resting place the commander has been glassing the horizon and has spotted more of the enemy. As he calls out "Schnell, Mach Schnell" to the driver the gunner is slamming a shell home in the breech. The driver then says , Farwell Brother. 

 So I am at the figure build right now, and have never painted them before. I am using one of the TRISTAR SPG crew sets #35007 vol.2. And I have already built my trees for the scene.

 Let me know you guys think. Thanks

                                                               doc

All gave some and some gave all.

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:57 PM
looks great! where do the trees come from?

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:24 PM

fermis, I used the twisted wire method in Richard Windrows book Terrain Modelling in the osprey series.

                                                          Thanks, doc

                                                                                    

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Posted by fermis on Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:30 PM
thanks i'll give a "whirl" !!!

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Posted by jtrace214 on Friday, January 23, 2009 9:51 AM

Doc, the trees look amazing. The figures are coming out great too. The only I might add is a rifle stuck in the ground at the grave maybe? Not sure if the Germans did that though. Looks great so far.. Can't wait to see it finished.

 

John

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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Friday, January 23, 2009 11:48 AM
You're on a roll, Doc... Think you're gonna have a winner.  the model is outstanding

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:36 AM

  John, Thanks for the comments. I will have an MP40 lying close by, and a shovel stuck into the ground also.

  Hans, Thanks a lot for the comments.

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Posted by Stern0 on Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:37 AM

Looking good! Awsome detail on the vehicle! The trees are incredible...I'm in tree mode as we speak, the bar is a little higher now! Thanks for sharing..Can't wait for more!Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Sunday, February 1, 2009 2:25 PM

 Steve, thanks for the encouragement.

 Here's an update on the progress. I'm learning to build and paint figures with the help of a friend Sean. He has lent me a large set of "ANDREA" paints with a guide book. I tried a couple of older guiena pigs first so that I hopefully would not ruin the main figures for my "DIO". I think that thier turning out. I know that the pic's are'nt that good, but I wanted to show what I've been working on. So guys here's a few pic's.

 

 Comments and critique welcome.

                                                          Thanks, doc

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, February 1, 2009 3:46 PM

Hey, still looking really good! The only thing I might point out would be the bushes. Looks like you're using Model Railroad lichen. It looks... ok on a small scale railroad, but for 1/35- I think it works good as a base for a bush- but I think it could use some kind of leaf like material sprinkled over top. Not sure if you were planning on this or not as it's a WIP, but even from a normal viewing distance, any close inspection reveals the lichen to look more like a bunch of scale "sticks and twigs" colored to look like vegitation. I think some oregano or basil (any leaf like spice really) might do the trick. If you sprayed the lichen with some kind of 3M tacky adhesive and then dumped a bunch of your choise of leafy material over top- then painted the whole thing in various colors, I think it would look much better and in scale. You could also sprinkle some orange and brown "leaves" across the ground from the trees- but that'd be more of a final step. Again, I know this is a WIP and you haven't even put the groundwork on yet, so if the lichen is more of a place holder for bushes of the future then no worries- as for their locations, they look great!

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Sunday, February 1, 2009 4:11 PM

  Chris, you are correct about the temporary lichen for setting the scene. I have some vegetation that looks more like small trees and bushes but did not want to damage them.

 Thanks for the comments and help. Thats what I'm after.Thumbs Up [tup]

                                                                    doc

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Posted by psstoff995 on Sunday, February 1, 2009 4:49 PM

Ah good good, just looking at the amount of realism with your homemade trees, didn't want to have that offset by the lichen.

Looking forward to seeing this built up!

-Chris

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Monday, February 2, 2009 9:52 AM

 Chris, I thought what the heck, show what it's going to look like in my minds eye so the rest of you can get the picture.

                                                              doc

 

            

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Posted by psstoff995 on Monday, February 2, 2009 3:06 PM

Holy Censored [censored]!!

You were right! Those totally look like trees...

So much for my lichen/oregano idea haha that's amazing- even the little purple flowers!

haha now quck! Wrap them up and hide them again until the groundworks done!

ps nice work on the stones and shovel- very cool detail with the grave.

-Chris

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Sunday, February 8, 2009 9:33 AM

 Things have been changed for the better, I hope. I have applied the "Claycrete" to the styrofoam base after I cut reliefs in the foam for a better anchor/bite for the papermache.

 I mixed 1/2 bottle of "Tamiya" red brown and 1/8th cup "Elmer's" glue to the "Claycrete" and water, to a cold oatmeal consistency. After I masked off the frame I applied the papermache making sure to keep my tools wet so it would not stick to them.

 Right now I just have these things on the base for perspective

 Next, I am going to paint the base an earthtone, even though I have already mixed paint in with the base material.

                                                             doc

All gave some and some gave all.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, February 9, 2009 10:57 AM
I  like what I see, just a few points to ponder...if the enemy is fast approaching, when did the soldiers have the time to mark such an elaborate grave?  I suppose they could have worked on it during the day, or before the Russians arrived...also, German war markers had a distinct look to them that was a variation of the Christian cross...
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Posted by Bodge on Monday, February 9, 2009 5:36 PM
awsome work ,really well done and lookin forward to moreBow [bow]
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Posted by doc-hm3 on Monday, February 9, 2009 5:43 PM

 Manny, Thanks for the input. You are correct about the cross, but I have also seen this version in pictures on the web. I initially had the cross with the upturned arms with a sort of roof coming down over the top of it as in this picture,  but I thought it too elaborate for what time the crew may have had to make it.

 Manny I am trying to portray a lull after a skirmish that the crew found the time to lay their  brother to rest, and just as the driver is placing the last few stones on his resting place, the ever watchful commander has spotted a new column of the enemy on the horizon urging the driver to hurry. I don't think that you can see this, but the gunner has a pist look on his face. The 8rad will have temporary camo of brush laying on it and they are sitting in a dried up steam bed putting them out of view.

 Bodge, Thanks for looking!

 The motto of the Recon units was "See but Not be Seen"

 I do appreciate and value your historion opinion. Does this make sense and do you think that I can pull this off?

                                                              Thanks, doc

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:34 AM

Personally, it makes sense to me, and as a recon unit, one would hope they'd have all the time in the world Whistling [:-^]

I do like the brush camo idea, and the stream bed is really cool- I'd put in a bunch of those rocks that you have around the grave- in the bottom of the stream bed, both to signify that it's not a road, and also to explain where the gravedigger acquired them

I really like the groundwork too, very realistic, even before painting- I'm sorry I scrolled through a bit to catch up, did i miss it or did you mention the process? The tree looks very natural, burried in quite nice, this is one of the better "from the ground up" dios I've seen in a while 

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:37 AM
 doc-hm3 wrote:

I mixed 1/2 bottle of "Tamiya" red brown and 1/8th cup "Elmer's" glue to the "Claycrete" and water, to a cold oatmeal consistency. After I masked off the frame I applied the papermache making sure to keep my tools wet so it would not stick to them.

 

Oopse! Sorry, you did sneek it in there. Thanks for the info, I'm going to try and pull that off next time around. You say "Claycrete"- is that a modeling product- or is it basically just a papermache?

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:06 AM

 Thanks Chris for your thoughts and encouragement. The "Claycrete" is basically the same product as "Celluclay", I found it  at "HobbyLobby" in the crafts section. And yes there will be stones in and along the stream bed. Also I will have grasses and scrub brush in the bed as well as the rest of the upper elevation.

                                                                      Thanks, doc

All gave some and some gave all.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:16 PM
Sounds great! Thanks for the info on the Claycrete

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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