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my first Dio...Flak 36 with crew

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  • Member since
    June 2008
  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:30 AM
No sweat, VB... I had an unfair advantage being a Redleg... Artillery's artillery, regardless of the gun, lol.. '76 is the same year I became a cannon-cocker, BTW...

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Posted by vespa boy on Friday, June 12, 2009 9:26 AM

HVH Thanks for answering the figure pose question that has been on my mind since I first saw a Tamiya catalogue in 1976.

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I ain't got time for that now

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    June 2008
  • From: Iowa
Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:22 PM

The poses are not great, but that's Tamiya's problem, not so much yours. The guy with the shell pointed down never made a lot of sense.

It does if you think about all the jobs on a gun and realize that he's posed putting the nose of the shell into the mechanical time-fuze setter...Wink [;)] After the fuze is set, he'll hand off the round to the Laderkanonier... The kit's loaders aren't supposed to be used together, either.. One loader is posed loading the gun (here) for the "anti-tank" type shot, the crouching loader is for loading the gun in the anti-aircraft mode..

Oh, and just my two-cents on flesh colors.. I use Model Master Radome Tan for the basic skin-color...

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    November 2008
  • From: Manchester England
Posted by engineer on Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:09 PM

Thank you for all your help.

 

Steve

I love this hobby its so relaxing.
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  • From: Philadelphia PA
Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:20 PM

I'm glad you didnt take my comment the wrong way, I meant it to give you a laugh.  Flesh, Imho, is one of the darned hardest things we have to do.  The only really successfull attempt I had was with a 1/20th Ma.k kit wave from wave.  I gave the thing a base coat of tamiya flesh, then gave it a wash of light browns mixed the flesh with a some tans and went over it to give it a softer color then the base, then detailed.  After I added a bit of color to the lips, did the eyes, added some stubble the details showed over the skin color.

whole build here /forums/1141983/ShowPost.aspx

You know how I got it to look realistic and how I wanted?  well, truthfully, I ruined the flesh color on a TON of 1/35th figures trying diffrent combinations and such untill I finally found something that worked.  get some scrap figures and just try over and over till you find a combo you like, and dont forget to write it down!

One thing I did to test the color was after I mixed, I'd dab some on my hand, see how well it looked next to well, real skin tone (caucasion that is)

 

Though this site is for large scale busts, it may help you, it helped me.

http://www.acesofiron.com/skin_tones.htm

 

While im giving tips.  One of your other major problems is a basic technique you NEED to learn, removing mold lines.  Look at the arms of your figures, you can see a raised little lip of plastic where the molds were pressed together.  When you build kits, of any sort these will be there.  What I do for these is I run over them with a razor blade, cutting as much of it off as I can, the I take a high grit sand paper and sand it untill its smooth.  If its a flat surface, I use a flat file to get rid of it then smooth it with the sand paper.

 

While there are alot of problems with this build, I like it, its a really good start, you have potential my friend, keep building.  You know the drill, you have a question, ask

 

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  • From: Manchester England
Posted by engineer on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:53 PM
 Phil_H wrote:

It looks good for your first dio attempt.

Apart from what's already beem said, I'm a ilttle unsure about the ready rounds being stood upright. That looks to me like a nasty accident waiting to happen.

 

My next one should be a lot better than this with a bit of luck.

 

Thanks for all your comments.

I love this hobby its so relaxing.
  • Member since
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  • From: Manchester England
Posted by engineer on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 4:52 PM
 smeagol the vile wrote:

Im suprised noone said this already.  It looks good except for one MAJOR thing that stands out to me, the flesh tone.

Its WAY WAY WAY to orange. 

When doing faces you wana aim more for the guy in the center of this picture, not the ones

around him.

 

LOL...I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN.

 

STEVE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other then that it isn't bad, I like the gun, and agree the motor cycle seems to be in the way

I love this hobby its so relaxing.
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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, June 9, 2009 6:57 AM

It looks good for your first dio attempt.

Apart from what's already beem said, I'm a ilttle unsure about the ready rounds being stood upright. That looks to me like a nasty accident waiting to happen.

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  • From: New Jersey, USA
Posted by Nick Nasta on Monday, June 8, 2009 6:57 PM

I have to agree with ajlafleche.

Nick

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  • From: Philadelphia PA
Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, June 8, 2009 4:58 PM

Im suprised noone said this already.  It looks good except for one MAJOR thing that stands out to me, the flesh tone.

Its WAY WAY WAY to orange. 

When doing faces you wana aim more for the guy in the center of this picture, not the ones

around him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other then that it isn't bad, I like the gun, and agree the motor cycle seems to be in the way

 

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Manchester England
Posted by engineer on Monday, June 8, 2009 2:10 PM

Thanks for your comments and noted.

 First dio so still learning and all comments are very welcome.

The figures do look ok only now you have pointed out the main problems i can address that,Cheers.

 Just goes to show when you take a picture it shows all the good and a lot of the bad points which you do not allways notice.

 

Steve

 

 

 

I love this hobby its so relaxing.
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by ajlafleche on Monday, June 8, 2009 9:15 AM
 engineer wrote:

 camo junkie wrote:
looks good from where im sitting! Make a Toast [#toast]

 

Thanks.

 

For some reason not all the pictures showed up.

 

steve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're using the wrong code from Photobucket...You should copy the code from the bottommost box labeled "IMG code" What you have is the code for using a picture in your own website. It should look like this (without spaces) [ i m g ] h t t p : / / www . photobucket . com/myaccount/dsc1001 . jpg [ / i m g ].

You need to be careful about cleaning up your figures and shells; there are very large seam lines, including one down the face of one.

Some thoughts. This is the ancient tamiya kit, just because it's in the box, doesn't mean you have to use it...I'm thinking the motorcyclist, he's just in the way of the gun crew. The poses are not great, but that's Tamiya's problem, not so much yours. The guy with the shell pointed down never made a lot of sense.

You've had several parts fall off, e.g., the gas mask container on the assistant loader and his knife.

This gun would typically be unlimbered before use and be set up in a semi permanent emplacement. Minimally, the arms not attacheche to the limbers have to be in contact withthe ground. Those two rifles leaning against the arm are likely to go flying from the recoil when the gun fires.

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  • From: clinton twp, michigan
Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, June 7, 2009 6:52 PM
yeah, came across as weird but no worries! Thumbs Up [tup]
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  • From: Manchester England
Posted by engineer on Sunday, June 7, 2009 5:13 PM

 camo junkie wrote:
looks good from where im sitting! Make a Toast [#toast]

 

Thanks.

 

For some reason not all the pictures showed up.

 

steve

I love this hobby its so relaxing.
  • Member since
    January 2009
  • From: clinton twp, michigan
Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, June 7, 2009 4:20 PM
looks good from where im sitting! Make a Toast [#toast]
"An idea is only as good as the person who thought of it...and only as brilliant as the person who makes it!!"
  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Manchester England
my first Dio...Flak 36 with crew
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I love this hobby its so relaxing.
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