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Stuarts present for Normandy

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Stuarts present for Normandy
Posted by capnluki on Friday, July 3, 2009 12:30 PM

enjoy the links

Stuart at Normandy#1

Stuart at Normandy#2

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Posted by figure freak on Friday, July 3, 2009 1:09 PM
They were in normandy AFTER the D-day landing i believe
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Posted by capnluki on Friday, July 3, 2009 1:32 PM
I think some went in with the Brittish.  Allthough they may not have been present for the first 24 hours, they were used on the second or third day.  So, at Normandy on D-Day, arguable, definitely present within the next two days.  Oh, ran across a Sherman designated M5-A1 Stuart light tank?Question [?]

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Posted by richs26 on Friday, July 3, 2009 3:29 PM
Only Shermans were landed on the beaches on the first day for the US.  55 out of 116 made it to the beach on Omaha.

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Posted by ajlafleche on Friday, July 3, 2009 3:58 PM
They are also both M5A1's NOT the M3A1'a you previously mentioned. The first picture is D+31 (edited June and July are NOT the same month! Oops [oops] Thanks for the wake Sleepy [|)]up call, Stik! Big Smile [:D]) and the second is undated.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, July 3, 2009 4:42 PM
The 2nd photo shows a tank fitted with a hedgerow plow, so it has to have been during the later stages of the Normandy fighting. I think the first photo is later that D+3, The caption says something about the town being liberated in July.

 

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Posted by Bronto on Friday, July 3, 2009 6:44 PM
Don't believe everthing you read in photo captions.  Neither picture is the M-3A1 Stuart you mentioned on Normandy beaches in your previous posts.
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Posted by capnluki on Saturday, July 4, 2009 5:43 AM
The M5A1 is a Sherman.  However, the turret in the pictures is clearly a Stuart.  All I know is that we threw everything we had at the Atlantic Wall.  I could only assume this included the Stuarts.  I have seen a Stuart with armor plates covering the tracks.  I would think that the only reason for this is if it was used in an assault.  Otherwise, it would have slowed our recon tank to a crawl.

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Posted by Phil_H on Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:11 AM

 capnluki wrote:
The M5A1 is a Sherman.  However, the turret in the pictures is clearly a Stuart. 

If you're referring to the first pic you linked above, it's not a Sherman, it's most certainly an M5A1.

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Posted by capnluki on Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:19 AM
Dropped the dio anyway.  Using the Stuart and Sherman models for a scene depicting Patton directing traffic.  Also, using the scout car I am retrofitting for Patton's personal M3A1.  Have the engine and gun mounts on order.  Just need the crew.

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Posted by calvin_ng on Sunday, July 5, 2009 3:23 PM
those are m5a1s, NOT m3a1s, m3a1s had a different angle front from the m5a1.
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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, July 6, 2009 1:24 PM

 capnluki wrote:
The M5A1 is a Sherman.  However, the turret in the pictures is clearly a Stuart.  All I know is that we threw everything we had at the Atlantic Wall.  I could only assume this included the Stuarts.  I have seen a Stuart with armor plates covering the tracks.  I would think that the only reason for this is if it was used in an assault.  Otherwise, it would have slowed our recon tank to a crawl.

Assume all you want, but on 6 June 1944, the US only had Shermans on the beach...

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, July 6, 2009 1:26 PM

 capnluki wrote:
Dropped the dio anyway.  Using the Stuart and Sherman models for a scene depicting Patton directing traffic.  Also, using the scout car I am retrofitting for Patton's personal M3A1.  Have the engine and gun mounts on order.  Just need the crew.

If you dropped the dio idea (which is good if you care about historical accuracy), then why did you start this thread?  Seems like you're trying to thumb your nose at the people who tried to offer you some friendly advice....  that's just my opinion... I could be wrong...

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